Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack?

Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by PaulHoule on Thursday February 04, 2016 @08:55AM (#11033848)

I am a fan of the JVM.

One definite problem I see is that (i) the Oracle JVM works better than Open JDK if you are doing anything demanding, and (ii) the Oracle JVM installer wants manual confirmation that you accept the license when you install it. (There is an answer for (ii) but that is all I will say about it.)

I think Java might be a harder platform to pick up than some other platforms. I have been programming in Java since Java was in beta, but today you need to know about Maven, probably Spring and also you need to have an IDE that provides more solutions than problems.

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Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by adamzegelin on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:23AM (#11034045)

As of JDK 7 OpenJDK and Oracle JDK can be considered equal.

The OracleJDK is built on top of OpenJDK. The only differences, according to a quick google, are some additional tooling, higher quality Java2D rendering and a different licence.

There is no difference in GC algorithms, hotspot optimisations, etc.

Tl;dr use OpenJDK

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Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by malfist on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:16AM (#11034001)

If I recall correctly, there is a environment variable you can set that implies you agree to it and the installer will not ask for manual confirmation.

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Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by cyphar on Thursday February 04, 2016 @07:41PM (#11038523)

The issue with accepting Oracle's license is that you're accepting a license from the largest psychopath that produces software.

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