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Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by outworlder on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @09:23PM (#11031561)
While I happen to share the sentiment(re. the numbers game), how wise would be to deploy a massive amount of remote-controlled weaponry against a developed nation?
Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by jfoutz on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @09:46PM (#11031636)
Well... I'm assuming the drones would be deployed by a developed nation as well. I know a few defense contractors, and they're decent guys, but i don't think they make really top notch stuff. In greedo's example, he's talking about all out war. I kinda suspect we would get the best and brightest to build software, sorta like the healthcare.gov rescue.

I do think a lot of low tech options are pretty viable, since we can only afford to make a few hundred F-35s. High wattage UV lasers shot at cockpits permanently blind pilots, high energy RF pointed at jets turn all those little wires into antennas, drones can just play tag because jets are so delicate. when the cost of loss is 100M, with equal resources (even fairly unequal!) you can try all sorts of crazy stuff, one win is a huge payoff.

I dunno. Playing armchair general is fun. I'll never be in a position to test my theorys. I also played a lot of zurg back in the day, so my opinion is probably kinda silly.

Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by greedo on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @11:59PM (#11032090)
Can only afford a few 100 F-35s? You know we're planning on buying over 2000?

If you think jets are so delicate, you haven't been paying attention to the mishap rate with drones. It's not like an RC model you're controlling within sight. You're operating them at ranges where lag is significant, where control links can be jammed, where GPS is easily spoofed, and where current performance is similar to a small Cessna.

How pray tell, is a small, cheap drone going to be able to carry a high power laser or "high energy RF" weapon (whatever that is) to the altitude that modern jets operate at? And if these "high energy RF" weapons are available, why wouldn't they be deployed on fighters, which can carry heavier weapons than drones, and have more surplus electrical capacity to power them?

It's easy to come up with armchair tactics when it's all Starcraft you're drawing upon. But the military doesn't work like that. Weapons take time to design, to implement, to refine. You can't just set your factories up to build UNIT X and ZERG!

Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by tim333 on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @11:33PM (#11032001)
Not sure any of that stuff would work to stop an F-35. You want something more like low frequency radar and S-400s.
Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by nether on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @09:59PM (#11031681)
What is your point? No one should build expensive weapons because attacking them is so cheap? If anything, that strengthens the case for more expensive and sophisticated weapons. Canopy glass needs to block lasers, more RF shielding. Or you just think war is pointless, yay cool story bro.
Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by tw04 on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @10:11PM (#11031736)
Remote controlled? They'll be an autonomous swarm before the end of the decade:

http://defensetech.org/2016/01/04/u-s-navy-plans-to-fly-firs...

Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by greedo on Thursday February 04, 2016 @12:26AM (#11032198)
And self-driving cars...

I doubt that there will be more than some technology demonstrators in less than four years.

And everyone is forgetting that with small size comes small range and payload. Small range means your opponent has to get close to you, exposing themselves. The article has some huge assumptions, at least concerning attacking a naval ship (which is far easier than an aircraft that can outperform a drone). The idea that an Aegis cruiser is going to let a fishing boat launch a significant number of drones without getting perforated by its MK-45 is a non-starter.

Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by fnordfnordfnord on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @10:21PM (#11031777)
Still possibly susceptible to remote exploits.
Re:The F-35’s Terrifying Bug List by tw04 on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @11:03PM (#11031908)
So is the F-35. "Possibly susceptible" could apply to just about any modern piece of military equipment.