Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by marcosdumay on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @08:02PM
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Like Columbus, right.
Isn't that funny that even the metaphor we use for such kind of stuff is some yahoo that got the radius of Earth wrong and survived just by accident?
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by hueving on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @08:55PM
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That's not a flaw in the metaphor. The whole point is that your plans are likely wrong and that the riches go to the ones who execute rather than the ones that spend all of their time on a perfect plan.
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by seivan on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @07:32PM
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I actually like that since I've always thought like that, it's nice to see in reading (and better explained). However it has its downside, it's easy to fall into pitfalls where you can't decide which path to take. As opposite of having a vision, basically means you know where to go and what to do. I am constantly suffering from making decisions that seem important and of similar value.
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by abcampbell on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:04PM
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Do you think no one has fixed email because the problem is too hard, or because there is a lack of creative/ambitious founders?
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by vorador on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:25PM
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The main reason is that you need to be backward compatible with 30 years of terrible hacks. That's why there's a ton of vaporware email clients --- there's a huge amount of work that most of your users don't suspect.
Full-disclosure: I work at a company building an open source email client (https://nylas.com/N1) and an API to simplify email (https://nylas.com/docs)
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by rabblac on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:45PM
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Well, it's from some time that I've been looking for a modern and open source email client, but N1 looks very promising.
Little question: do you plan to support PGP?
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by grinich on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:57PM
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It's in development by several N1 users: https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/96
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by Drdrdrq on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:19PM
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Maybe because, despite all the noise, e-mail doesn't need fixing? It works, and pretty well too.
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by volaski on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @07:04PM
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I have a project I was at first very excited about but then later paused working on as I discovered more about the email ecosystem. The reason I was excited about it at first was because email is--in theory--decentralized, this part was very attractive to me because I thought this was one potential way to disrupt all existing content silos. However the more I worked on it the more I found out how "centralized" it is when it comes to consumer email. If you take a look around there are only a handful of popular email providers (gmail, yahoo mail, microsoft, etc.) Rest of them are indies. I felt like building a consumer email client (or anything that utilizes consumer email) is as limited as building a twitter client, you're essentially tapping into a big platform. This is why I ran out of steam and put the idea on shelf until I come up with a compelling reason to start working on it again. I wasn't motivated enough.
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by ignoramous on Thursday February 04, 2016 @01:57AM
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Sorry, but I personally do not know the answer. I'd like to refer you to dmbaggett of Crash Bandi Coot and ITA Software fame who's currently working on fixing email:
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by lyqwyd on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @05:26PM
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This isn't about fixing email, it's about building big things off small ideas.
Microsoft didn't just turn into the biggest BASIC software company.
The point is that the outcome can often be unrecognizable from the origin, and not to worry to much about the endpoint, but focus on doing one thing well at the start.
Re:Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
by taneq on Thursday February 04, 2016 @03:09AM
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No-one's "fixed" email because of the network effect. You think trying to break into the social networking space is bad? Consider that everyone who does use social networking has an email address, along with almost everyone who doesn't.
Empirically, the way to do really big things seems to be to start with deceptively small things. Want to dominate microcomputer software? Start by writing a Basic interpreter for a machine with a few thousand users. Want to make the universal web site? Start by building a site for Harvard undergrads to stalk one another.
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I think the way to use these big ideas is not to try to identify a precise point in the future and then ask yourself how to get from here to there, like the popular image of a visionary. You'll be better off if you operate like Columbus and just head in a general westerly direction. Don't try to construct the future like a building, because your current blueprint is almost certainly mistaken. Start with something you know works, and when you expand, expand westward.
The popular image of the visionary is someone with a clear view of the future, but empirically it may be better to have a blurry one.
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Paul Graham, on Frighteningly Ambitious Start-up Ideas.
http://www.paulgraham.com/ambitious.html