Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by GrumpyBen on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @05:17AM
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> will persecute the 99 other ones, and even put them in prison
No, you won't go to prison if your company fails, unless you've done something illegal, like using company money for personal benefits.
> So, they discourage people from being self-employed
No, they actually encourage self-employment. The new "auto-entrepreneur" status makes it very easy, you just need to register online.
> Nobody wants to start a new company.
False again. The number of new companies created in France have been at an all time high for the last 5 years.
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by tobltobs on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @08:02AM
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How much again you are allowed to earn as a auto-entrepreneur?
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by tarsinge on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @09:29AM
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~34k€ (37k$) / year, taxed at roughly 25%, so max net income of 2150€ ($2337) / month
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by brohee on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @05:30AM
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> Nobody wants to start a new company.
This is ridiculously wrong, see https://media.apce.com/file/59/9/france-entiere_fs_2013.7059...
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by germainb on Friday January 22, 2016 @05:33AM
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Never have I had so many friends in France starting their ventures.
The 10000 Uber drivers also often left jobs (were not unemployed) to become auto-entrepreneurs
https://medium.com/@GerryB/uber-fighting-youth-unemployment-...
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by tobltobs on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @08:12AM
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This numbers are completly screwed through the invention of the new auto-entrepreneur status five years ago. But this new status is not suitable for any startup. Thats nice for plombiers or other handy mans. But even those should avoid to earn more than a basic income.
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by GrumpyBen on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @09:52AM
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You can start testing your ideas working as an auto-entrepreneur on your personal websites or mobile apps and later create a startup when you need funding.
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by tarsinge on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @09:33AM
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It's great to start a consulting activity too
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by brohee on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @09:52AM
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Well hopefuly you bill enough that you need to create an EIRL or EURL, auto-entrepreneur status is not good for a successful consulting activity, unless it's a side gig.
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by GrumpyBen on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @10:03AM
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That's why he said "start" :)
Re:France’s Economy Minister on French Startups
by dmichulke on Tuesday January 19, 2016 @03:40AM
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There is a reason why governments prefer large companies [...] If a large company employs 1000 persons, they only need to speak to 1 person to collect taxes on all 1000.
This implies that efficiency is actually something governments (specifically the French one) care about.
I'm not sure whether I'd agree with that.
There is a reason why governments prefer large companies, don't like small companies, and discourage starting one. If a large company employs 1000 persons, they only need to speak to 1 person to collect taxes on all 1000. It would be a problem, if they had to collect them from each individual person one by one, from all 1000. Large companies make life easier to them. So, they discourage people from being self-employed or create small companies. One way to do that, is to punish them harshly if they fail.
The biggest problem that the government has, is that their policy is actually working. Nobody wants to start a new company. With old companies gradually becoming outdated and disappearing, that is not such a good thing. So, now they want to encourage people to do something that they also discourage them from doing.