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Re:CES 2016 – Observations for Product People by 0xffff2 on Tuesday January 12, 2016 @02:41PM (#10889789)
I'm disappointed by all four bullet points in the first section, and even more disappointed that the author sees them as positive.

* No local storage: Great, I didn't want control over my data anyway. Yay!

* No wires: Now I have to spend 5-15 minutes configuring every new device, even if it's sitting right next to or on top of the device it communicates with. Yay!

* No buttons: Because tactile feedback is so overrated, and who doesn't want yet another poorly written and barely supported app on their phone to ensure it barely makes it through the day on a single charge? Yay!

* Almost, no mains: Who doesn't want to replace every single device in their life every couple of years? Your permanently installed security camera that never moves has a dead battery? Psh, no we don't sell replacement batteries, just buy a whole new camera! The latest version has 10 new features you don't want and will never use. Yay!

Edit: Another gem later in the article:

>In addition, there are more specialized (and harder to make) controllers for legacy home systems like garage door remotes, water heater, sprinkler, and so on.

My water heater is a "legacy system" now? Why, because it doesn't have built in WiFi allowing me to control its temperature in half degree increments from work? If the world was really like the image portrayed by the article's over-eager author, we never would have survived the horrible dark ages of the 1990's.

Re:CES 2016 – Observations for Product People by GFischer on Tuesday January 12, 2016 @03:26PM (#10890093)
It's not surprising, the autor, Stefen Sinofsky was in charge of the IMO unusable Windows 8 start screen, including the lack of the "Start" button, so you could say he hates buttons :) .

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-failed-at-nearly-everyt...

Re:CES 2016 – Observations for Product People by 0xffff2 on Tuesday January 12, 2016 @04:17PM (#10890473)
Oh wow... That's what I get for not actually checking the by-line. Somehow I didn't expect someone so notable to be writing for Medium. Now that you point it out, I'm not at all surprised by the attitude in the article.

I'm still disappointed, but Windows 8 taught me to expect nothing less from Sinofsky.

Re:CES 2016 – Observations for Product People by stevesi on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @02:16AM (#10936497)
Your water heater is a legacy device because it is horribly inefficient and lacks any connection to how you actually use water (when you need it, how much, etc.) It just constantly consumes energy keeping massive amounts of water ready for you even if you are away for two weeks (as one example). Same with sprinklers that have no knowledge of soil water. Or an ice maker. Or... that's what makes them "legacy".

If you've followed CES over the years (maybe you have) then you know the incredible pains consumers have gone through with physical button remotes--trying to make IR work, trying to figure out what grids of tiny buttons do (with shift keys no less), trying to customize physical button remotes to control multiple devices and more.

If you've tried to put in a security camera or other monitor you might have noticed how unsightly the wires can be when you put them where you want to see. Or how impossible it is to put one at an outside door where there are no outlets. Of course having mains is compelling but this is another trend that we experience in mobile that turns out to be pretty convenient for many uses.

You might think an ethernet cable is one cable to rule them all, but the jack is very large and almost no homes have those jacks on more than one wall of any room (if that). And many systems (in particular lighting) were controlled using ethernet cable from each outlet. But those were all based on proprietary home runs and routed to the electrical panel not data location and so you ended up with a "one cable to rule them all" legacy wiring that was quite costly.

Just a few thoughts.

Re:CES 2016 – Observations for Product People by ape4 on Tuesday January 12, 2016 @03:14PM (#10890013)
I agree, some things are fun to be gadgets - eg drones. Some stuff you want reliable and simple - BIFL - eg waterheater, stove, fridge, thermostat.