Re:IBM ported Go to s390x mainframes
by jhallenworld on Monday January 11, 2016 @12:19PM
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You can try MVS, a z/OS precursor, for free:
It is nice for fun or digital archaeology, but the last freely available version of MVS was released ca. 1978... But it is nice to get a feeling of what the system is like.
Ouch... Guess that answers it definitively then. Shame that if someone wants to learn, they have to resort to copyright infringement...
Seems like a good startup opportunity -- z/OS as a service. Buy the $5000 license and then rent it out to users for $10 a month. Maybe the terms don't allow it? Fuck them. Disruption, baby!
Re:IBM ported Go to s390x mainframes
by marktangotango on Monday January 11, 2016 @08:44PM
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There were places around that rent time. There was also a place offering free accounts, I don't even remember the name now. There's one hell of a learning curve, makes it really hard to do anything other than poke around when you don't know the params to code in a jcl to compile a program. My first gig was mainframe cobol, the company put everyone thru a 3 month training program, that's the only reason I know anything about it.
Odd conclusion.
How so? There are no legal resources for acquiring Z/OS as a student without paying absurd (for a student) prices.
You could take a class for cheaper, but formal classes are poor substitute for interacting with the system on your own terms. (Ask any programmer)
You seem to reason that anything that is not available on your terms is fair game for piracy.
IBM can do whatever they like with their IP.
I believe the point is that if you want to play with it, your only choice is piracy, not that you must pirate it.
Since, in practice, nobody's going to pirate it either, that means there's no way to learn about it on your own. That's shutting down a very big free training mechanism for IBM, though it's probably too late to do anything about that now.
Oh thanks for pointing that out.
Karunamon didn't imply it to be fair game, he stated that it's too expensive to afford for learning for most people, which seems to be a simple fact. He also stated that it's a shame, which can mean either that it's a shame that you can't learn, or a shame that you're to infringe, and if taken to mean the latter that makes it seem like you're actually in violent agreement with him.
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/ratideveandtesten...
It's just under $5k USD for a 12 month single user license:
https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/buyingtools/paexpr...