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Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by tim333 on Wednesday January 06, 2016 @11:47PM (#10856043)
The government pushing the stock market up seems a new thing under the present leadership (since 2012?) and kind of dumb like they don't understand markets. Having the stock market priced high doesn't make people richer in real assets although they may imagine their bits of paper worth more. On the other hand it can lead to real assets being misallocated to doomed but overpriced dot coms for example.
Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by zhte415 on Thursday January 07, 2016 @08:39AM (#10857791)
A wealth effect.

An ill-sighted policy, but striving at a wealth effect. The housing market was already crashing in 2012, and gold was booming so much so it seemed like a peak. Wages were stagnant and had been for some time. So where to encourage people to have a feeling of generating wealth? A stagnant stock market.

I have a feeling the Chinese leadership, as a body that agrees on consensus, understand western economic and political history better than anywhere else in the world. They also have a sense of control over messages that get sent out by official media.

This combination led to a belief that nothing can go wrong when the 2 are put together: in this case a stampede to the stock market and quite a few savvy investors recognising this.

This search for a wealth effect reflects something much deeper, however: There is deep malaise in China's economy which is felt across the board, and there is a desperate desire to keep the ball that has rolled for the past 20 years to continue rolling.

Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by joelberman on Thursday January 07, 2016 @04:45AM (#10856993)
Do you think the government buys and sells stick to manipulate prices? Perhaps the 90M traders lack sophistication so trade mostly on rumor.
Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by dnautics on Thursday January 07, 2016 @02:05AM (#10856469)
I mean isn't that what the US does?
Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by simonh on Thursday January 07, 2016 @03:18AM (#10856679)
No, they do exactly the opposite. They act to moderate the market. When markets are down they drop interest rates to stimulate investment, but when markets are booming they raise interest rates and limit the money supply to try and calm them down. Western economists and central bank leaders are very well aware of how damaging over inflated markets can be and one of their primary goals is to moderate the boom and bust cycle.
Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by dnautics on Thursday January 07, 2016 @03:53AM (#10856824)
That's the narrative, yes, but given that the market has been bull for six+ years and the Fed only recently raised rates, and not by much (real rates may still be negative)... The evidence does not support your assertion
Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by sleeping_pills on Thursday January 07, 2016 @04:24AM (#10856934)
You provide zero evidence that the US stocks are overvalued (I'm not saying they aren't) so you should refrain from demanding evidence from others.

Furthermore, why do you think the FED should've raised raters earlier? Supporting the stock market is not their mandate and it is thus not directly relevant whether and how long has the current bull market lasted. A big market crash just a few years after 2008 (and 2011) would've certainly had a dampening effect on recovery so they might have felt justified in increasing the money supply. Inflation is running low, economic growth and labor markets were very weak for many years after the 2008 crash. They had pretty good reasons to be supportive.

Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by nbouscal on Thursday January 07, 2016 @06:18AM (#10857305)
The Fed's mandate is inflation and unemployment, so judging whether they should act based on stock prices reflects a misunderstanding of their goals.
Re:China stock trading halted early after 7% plunge again by greggarious on Thursday January 07, 2016 @08:25AM (#10857737)
Depends on the trader.

Most normal people buy and hold. (Personally I have a mix of bond and stock index funds)

But for a day trader, decent sized jump could be a problem. I don't have a ton of sympathy though since day trading is basically gambling.