> I know liberals are going to argue "that's why you need to take the market out of it and have single payer." It's a consistent argument only if you believe that you'd be better off with single payer. Some people would be; I know I wouldn't be. I'd end up paying even more for everyone else who isn't paying.

US government currently pays more per capita than eg UK NHS, and you still get stuck with insurance, co-pay, and bills for your very expensive health care.