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Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by Kadin on Monday January 04, 2016 @05:43PM (#10839317)
It looks neat, but it's hard not to be cynical about yet another competing standard for low-power "smart home" / IoT-type devices, just to muddy the ZigBee vs. Z-Wave vs. BT LE Longrange vs. conventional WiFi waters a bit more.

Not saying there's anything wrong with the protocol per se; it's probably perfectly fine. But the lack of widespread standardization in the 900MHz ISM low power space is really crippling what could otherwise be a robust market for smart devices. That's the key problem, rather than anything technical, and adding yet another option for hardware designers to choose from seems unlikely to improve things in the near future.

Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by trollian on Monday January 04, 2016 @11:20PM (#10841176)
Zigbee is fairly awful. Most of that space wasn't designed for consumer products or multi vendor interoperability.

Being able to use the standard WiFi software & firmware stack but trading throughput for lower power and greater range has the potential to be a huge win. There are already many players who have WiFi silicon that it should be easy to adapt to this new protocol. Hopefully that will mean wide availability of solutions at competitive prices.

Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by roymurdock on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:56PM (#10839807)
Relevant xkcd:

https://xkcd.com/927/

Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by abrookewood on Monday January 04, 2016 @10:06PM (#10840790)
Are we really downvoting xkcd? I don't see anything wrong with a little bit of humour on HN.
Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by MBCook on Monday January 04, 2016 @10:14PM (#10840831)
That comic is a trope at this point. Any discussion of standards includes it.

The comment didn't add anything. If it was a more substantive comment and mentioned the comic you'd have a point.

But the comment might as well be a copy and paste job. It's not really adding to the discussion.

I mean just from the discussion and the letters XKCD I knew which comic it was.

Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by nitrogen on Monday January 04, 2016 @11:03PM (#10841089)
Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by abrookewood on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @08:32PM (#10847751)
Fair enough, I'd have to agree.
Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by reitanqild on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @12:22AM (#10841370)
Didn't vote, but if I could vote for "stay at 1 point" I'd do.

I mean, that comment isn't too bad but sometimes I (we?) get a sneaking suspicion that some of these (I didn't check the commenters comment history so I cannot say in this case) are attempts at "karma farming", which is annoying.

Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by rblatz on Monday January 04, 2016 @08:11PM (#10840235)
I agree, the wink hub already ships with something like 5 different radios. Also this doesn't look like it supports mesh networking. What advantages does it offer over z-wave or zigbee? And will it be better than Insteon's or Lurton's protocols?
Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by TD-Linux on Monday January 04, 2016 @08:31PM (#10840312)
It supports IP, which is a nice benefit for interoperability and standalone usage (it doesn't require a "smart" hub that understands all of the protocols).
Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by rblatz on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @02:42PM (#10845468)
But it does require a bunch of smart apps that can speak the language for each device you toss on the network.
Re:Wi-Fi Alliance introduces low power, long range Wi-Fi HaLow by tilect1 on Monday January 04, 2016 @11:10PM (#10841130)
LoRa mesh networking, not too many details but it appears to be possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdejQkTdC6o