Re:T-Mobile’s Binge On Optimization is Just Throttling, Appl...
by TeMPOraL on Monday January 04, 2016 @02:52PM
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> That is never the limit of what the physical hardware is capable of, its a number set on their outbound WAN routing servers to accept or deny going in or out to your IP address.
I always believed ISPs were operating at saturation levels.
Off-topic, but a thing I realized now - I have no clue what the real costs for ISPs are. I suppose it's mostly a) electricity, b) amortizing hardware and c) various personnel & paperwork expenses. Is there a comprehensive source that could tell me or help derive just how much my bits cost?
Re:T-Mobile’s Binge On Optimization is Just Throttling, Appl...
by scrollaway on Monday January 04, 2016 @04:02PM
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You should follow Adrian Kennard's blog: http://www.revk.uk/
He's the CEO of AAISP, arguably the best and most transparent ISP in the UK (also quite a small one).
On costs, there's also contracts with other ISPs (most lines are leased from other ISPs, not leased by the ISP itself), customer hardware (routers and other gadgets), marketing, support, subcontracts for personnel across the country, etc.
Re:T-Mobile’s Binge On Optimization is Just Throttling, Appl...
by TeMPOraL on Monday January 04, 2016 @05:08PM
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Ah, the XKCD/806-compliant guys? :). I remember that ISP fondly from discussion about UK Internet filtering on HN. Thanks for reminding me about their CEO's blog!
Re:T-Mobile’s Binge On Optimization is Just Throttling, Appl...
by scrollaway on Monday January 04, 2016 @10:32PM
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Funnily enough, their XKCD806 "compliance" is pretty useless since whenever you call, you get someone who actually has a clue regardless. They don't have call centers. It's really nice, I miss them!
But if you did have a legal definition of Internet requiring unmodified traffic, ISPs selling Internet service would have to, by definition, provide unlimited bandwidth insofar as their physical links are capable of. Which might actually be nice - we already know coax is fully capable of pretty incredible speeds, and being able to push data as fast as you can onto that link would be invaluable.
Of course, that also means the ISP has no requirement to ever upgrade their routing hardware - they would just have cheap stuff running 100% full load 24/7. But then its a consumer choice what ISP you use and whose hardware is best for the money - more expensive ISPs would be offering better routing hardware that can handle higher traffic, and cheaper ones would do the opposite. Well, that would work, if you lived in a sane country where infrastructure like coaxial lines or twisted pair or fiber to the home were public services rather than privately owned and monopoly controlled.