Re:IPv6 celebrates its 20th birthday by reaching 10% deployment
by zaphoyd on Monday January 04, 2016 @10:46AM
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Actually a huge chunk of the US ISP market has IPv6 in production. Comcast, Time Warner Cable, AT&T, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, Sprint, Google Fiber. Ironically, it is their huge monopolistic size that actually makes them great candidates for IPv6. They are getting too large to use IPv4. It will be the small consumer friendly shoestring ISP operations that will take the longest.
Re:IPv6 celebrates its 20th birthday by reaching 10% deployment
by icehawk on Monday January 04, 2016 @10:05AM
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Comcast has spoken a bit about why they're implementing IPv6.
From: http://meetings.ripe.net/ripe-54/presentations/IPv6_manageme...
In the control plane, all devices need to be remotely managed, so NAT isn’t going to help us, nor is federated Net 10 islands…
IPv6 is the clear solution for us.
Re:IPv6 celebrates its 20th birthday by reaching 10% deployment
by spacecowboy_lon on Monday January 04, 2016 @12:14PM
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So they are managing devices inband as Sir Humphrey might say a "How very courageous"
Re:IPv6 celebrates its 20th birthday by reaching 10% deployment
by X-Istence on Monday January 04, 2016 @03:36PM
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The devices are set top boxes, modems and more. Those devices only have a single plug that plugs them into the network, technically it is all inband.
It's only separated in that your cable modem gets a non-routable IPv6 address. It's non-routable within the internet but is a stock standard globally unique IP address. This is used for management purposes.
Re:IPv6 celebrates its 20th birthday by reaching 10% deployment
by scurvy on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @12:37AM
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Posit: Europe will be slow to adopt IPv6 because Europe isn't growing at all (population). They're "OK" with what they have now in terms of IPv4.
Posit: the rest of the world continues growing and adopts IPv6.
Europe is left behind by stick-in-the-mud ISP's. We're already starting to see this [0]. The exception in Europe is Germany, mainly due to DT.
Discuss.
[0] https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...
Fundamentally, why do they have to support ipv6? Especially when they have monopoly power over their customers? Its not like the customers can see the difference, and if a website doesn't work for a network of millions because the site v6 only the only loser is the website.
I'd be surprised if we hit 15% this year. Web services are doing a good job supporting v6, but now you have to get all ISPs to do it as well, and those ISPs are always ranked as some of the most consumer unfriendly companies in a lot of countries because they have no market pressure to improve or serve their customers well.