LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper

Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dogma1138 on Monday January 04, 2016 @05:42AM (#10834829)

The big issue with those types of displays is that the rest of the electronics can't fit in that package.

Big screen TV's require quite a bit of processing power especially for all those neat 4K 3D 120hz 1000hz "image processing" uber smart interwebs TV's people insist on buying ;)

So while I don't doubt that LG can make a 55" flexible display I don't see them being able to make a 55" flexible 1mm TV in the next decade, the hardware package which is required to drive those things is quite insane and with Samsung/Sony one uping each other with 8K and 12K TV's all the time that's only going to get bigger. A 1080 non smart TV with maybe basic DLNA support could possibly be doable, but 4K with all the smart TV features people expect no way...

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dagw on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:22AM (#10834932)

The big issue with those types of displays is that the rest of the electronics can't fit in that package.

If you make it like a roll up projector screen then you could fit the electronics in the top 'bar' that the screen rolls into. You could also add the speakers into the same bar, making for a fairly compact package.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dogma1138 on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:41AM (#10834992)

That's quite possible but it's not the form factor from LG's TV concept I just don't see them fitting a full TV under 5mm like in their concept, not in the next 10 years or so.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dagw on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:47AM (#10835018)

OK, how about a plug behind the TV and a wire that runs along/behind the wall to a big back box stashed in a closet somewhere. I mean it's going to need power, so you can't completely get rid of all the wires.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by mattlutze on Monday January 04, 2016 @07:17AM (#10835149)

10 years is quite a long time.

Today 10 years ago we didn't yet have Twitter, for example. BlueRay was only a year old. I imagine many folks were still looking at CRT televisions as something to buy for their family.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dogma1138 on Monday January 04, 2016 @07:27AM (#10835203)

Look at the TTM for OLED screens or flexible screens for that matter... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_display POC to product is 10-15 year Prototype/Concept to product is usually 5-8 years.

Philips had a roller display demoing in 2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollable_display But we are still not close to it being a product.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by mattlutze on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @10:48AM (#10843806)

I wrote a few college research papers on commercial OLED tech back in 2004... that one never got enough love, though the price fixing and profiteering the big display makers were doing in the 00's makes me think that it's possible they squashed some of that advancement to try and milk their LCD profits as much as possible.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by jacquesm on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:58AM (#10835068)

What's the thinnest tablet?

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by jjp on Monday January 04, 2016 @05:59AM (#10834871)

Can't much off the electronics be off-board? Given I could buy a Fire, Apple, Roku etc. I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a single HDMI input.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dogma1138 on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:08AM (#10834894)

Not sure if you can drive 4K and above with 3D with 1mm thick screen like LG showed. They've "cheated" on the demo's the screens were fed with through a flex connector and had only a few still images on them, even the LCD driver is something that would require a bigger package than what you can put on flex today, and those solid state components aren't flexible...

>I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a single HDMI input.

Checkout the Korean white label TV's and monitors Ebay they use LG and Samsung panels usually come with the most basic features (the vast majority of them don't have a tuner cheaper, and avoids hideous import taxes for most the world) but then again you get a 65" 4K TV for less than 2000$.... e.g. http://stores.ebay.com/Dream-Seller/UHD-3840-x-2160-/_i.html...

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by jacquesm on Monday January 04, 2016 @07:01AM (#10835081)

> They've "cheated" on the demo's the screens were fed with through a flex connector and had only a few still images on them

How is that cheating? Display technology goes through a bunch of stages before being ready for mass consumption and the first stage after getting 'off the drawing board' would be to feed it data and to see what it looks like with stills. Still images are much harder to get right than motion in display technology because you have just about forever to determine what it looks like. With moving images the eye is much more forgiving.

Display calibration is always done with stills.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dogma1138 on Monday January 04, 2016 @07:29AM (#10835210)

Hence the quotation marks "cheated" isn't in a bad way, just pointing that the driving part of the display isn't on a nice thin flex package, and we've yet to seen these displays produce high refresh rate images there's a reason why prototypes always show stills things go funky once you have to start turning 8 million odd pixels on and off....

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by jacquesm on Monday January 04, 2016 @08:06AM (#10835386)

What about that pony?

Really, this is a huge step for display tech and it seems a bit much to demand systems integration at that same level right away as well. This is not a product, it's a technology demo.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by dogma1138 on Monday January 04, 2016 @09:07AM (#10835664)

Which is exactly what I'm saying, were quite a few years away from this being really commercial judging by the current track record of display tech probably about 10 years until its some what widely available in fully integrated systems.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by xerography on Monday January 04, 2016 @08:33AM (#10835507)

Which pony?

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by ksec on Monday January 04, 2016 @09:02AM (#10835642)

Exactly what i have in mind for a long time. The TV, should just be a Panel with one connection. The electronics will live in another box.

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Re:LG made an 18-inch display you can roll up like a newspaper by i386081 on Monday January 04, 2016 @09:52AM (#10835856)

They could probably get away with putting everything except the speakers into a huge power brick. I don't think many people care about poorly implemented smart TV features and instead will plug a Chromecast or whatever into HDMI slot.

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