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Re:Uber-Style Flight-Sharing Service Shot Down by U.S. Court by tzs on Monday December 21, 2015 @03:09AM (#10770132)
As noxryan already pointed out, pilots without commercial licenses can sometimes accept some compensation, namely expense sharing as long as the pilot is paying his fair share of the flight expenses. It's important, though, in those cases that the flight is one that the pilot would be taking whether or not he had passengers.

The problem Flytenow and its pilots ran into is that the FAA decided that participants were operating as common carriers, and flying for a common carrier requires a commercial license.

The FAA defines common carriage as a service meeting four elements: (1) a holding out of a willingness to (2) transport persons or property (3) from place to place (4) for compensation. Elements #1 and #4 are the key elements.

Flytenow argued that its service does not meet either of those. They lost on #4 because expense sharing is compensation. It doesn't matter that it is a form of compensation that is allowed for non-commercial pilots. They lost on #1, I think based on skimming the court's opinion [1], because their service is easily available to the general public.

Note that the FAA does not have a problem with non-commercial pilots sharing expenses with passengers when they are not doing it in a way so readily available to the general public. If you mention to your coworkers that you are renting a Cessna to fly to some specific place to visit family over the holidays and a co-worker says they want to go there too the FAA would have no problem with you taking them with you and having them pay their share of the expenses. Even putting a notice on the bulletin board at work, where it might be seen by dozens of people, that you are taking that trip and asking if anyone wants to come along and share expenses would almost certainly be fine.

[1] https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/77E3D4B7...

Re:Uber-Style Flight-Sharing Service Shot Down by U.S. Court by AndrewKemendo on Monday December 21, 2015 @09:42AM (#10771238)
namely expense sharing as long as the pilot is paying his fair share of the flight expenses

That's not compensation. What he is talking about is two pilots, usually broke pilot students at the same FOB, who have their PPL but need hours for their CFI, IFR or some other type rating. So they share gas and then do different legs as pilot in command, it's cheaper, you get your hours and have some company. I can tell you from first hand experience, solo cross-country, is boring as hell. I even did it before GPS was a thing and you have to do IFR landmark based nav - still boring.

If you mention to your coworkers that you are renting a Cessna to fly to some specific place to visit family over the holidays and a co-worker says they want to go there too the FAA would have no problem with you taking them with you and having them pay their share of the expenses.

It's been a while since I flew, but that was definitely one of the things that was drilled into me as "not legal" behavior for a non-commercial pilot. Your scenarios would bust all 4 common carriage rules. "Goodwill (dropping off clients) is not bona fide purpose (likely is compensation)[1]."

[1]https://www.nbaa.org/events/amc/2011/news/presentations/1011...

Re:Uber-Style Flight-Sharing Service Shot Down by U.S. Court by lmm on Monday December 21, 2015 @10:14AM (#10771404)
A coworker is not a client, the point of that restriction is that you can't fly a client to their house for goodwill purposes if you don't have a common purpose for the flight. Sounds like that example would be fine provided the expenses are properly pro-rated and limited to the specified things.
Re:Uber-Style Flight-Sharing Service Shot Down by U.S. Court by tzs on Monday December 21, 2015 @11:48AM (#10771955)
Expense sharing is compensation, although Flytenow tried to argue otherwise. See page 12 of the court's ruling.