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Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by loopbit on Friday December 18, 2015 @11:38AM (#10759311)
I wish I could. Cost of living, taxes, benefits... even the "culture" of the country (for lack of a better word) all play a role, but when you are working in a distributed team for an american corp in a different country and see how different the salaries are even between team members doing the same job, it hurts.

BTW, I think you'll find it difficult to find a fresh out of college job that pays you 38K€ in most of europe.

Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by djhn on Friday December 18, 2015 @12:08PM (#10759484)
3k€ per month + holiday extra or bonuses sounds pretty standard for most office work after any university degree (so by default MSc in Europe), I'd say 3.5 to 4 is reasonable with engineering, business, finance, etc. 4-5 in law, 5-7 in medicine.
Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by loopbit on Friday December 18, 2015 @12:28PM (#10759606)
Good luck finding a entry-level job, any entry level job in Spain that pays you more than 900€ per month in Spain, Italy, Portugal... even France and maybe, Germany (although I have less information there).

From what I see, you might get 2-2.5K€ per month in the rest of Europe. Ireland and UK are, AFAIK, where the highest salaries in IT are and even there you are going to get 2-3K€ per month at most.

Most lawyers I know in Europe start their careers earning minimum wage. And they do that for a few years until they are promoted to full lawyers or open their own practice.

Doctors usually spend their first years with temp contracts of 3-6 months in Hospitals for slightly more than minimum wage. This is after they finish their degrees and do the mandatory internships they need to do to get their MD degree.

Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by mikekchar on Friday December 18, 2015 @12:49PM (#10759727)
I did quite a lot of research on salaries in the London area 2 years ago. Starting wage for a programmer out of school was around 3-3.5K€ per month. Some places paid up to 4K per month (90th percentile). 25th% percentile was 2.5K€ per month. I have heard that starting wages have gone up a bit in the last few years. Your numbers for the UK are more typical outside of London, though.

Of course nothing like Bay area salaries, even though London is ridiculously expensive. Some Googling seems to indicate that the cost of living in SF is about 25% higher than London, so real earnings are quite a bit higher there for programmers it seems.

Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by throwaway9090 on Friday December 18, 2015 @03:44PM (#10760797)
Been working in London for a good 8 years. Started at £75k, and earning over £125k base now + fairly significant bonus (50 - 100%). Fintech mainly, but also worked at a tech company. throwaway for obvious reasons.
Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by benmarten on Friday December 18, 2015 @01:58PM (#10760201)
Most starting salaries in Germany out of school for software engineers are between 40-60k€/year. I made 50k starting with a Bachelors. My brother with MSc. in Mechanical Engineering makes almost 60k€.
Re:Big Company vs. Startup Work and Compensation by djhn on Saturday December 19, 2015 @09:39AM (#10763668)
Oh yes, I should have qualified that! I was talking Nordics, GermanySwitzerland/Austria, Benelux countries, UK and Ireland.. Maybe France as well. Definitely not the whole Europe, but a significant chunk of the tech scene.