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Re:The Secret Surveillance Catalogue by vox_mollis on Friday December 18, 2015 @09:50AM (#10758712)
will the people who are going to argue that the US is not a police state please step forward and address this damning evidence

Unfortunately, it's difficult to point out the high-powered shilling for authority that happens on HN because the biggest shills wield incredible influence (and karma).

One learns not to poke the bear.

Re:The Secret Surveillance Catalogue by cryoshon on Friday December 18, 2015 @09:52AM (#10758721)
Can you say more about the high powered shilling for authority that happens on HN? I've been around for quite a while and I can't say that I've seen such a thing... maybe a few no-name easy-to-detect shills in certain hot national security and geopolitical topics, sure, but that's to be expected.
Re:The Secret Surveillance Catalogue by vox_mollis on Friday December 18, 2015 @10:06AM (#10758799)
Again, naming usernames is asking for a hellban.

But a good proportion of prior threads on the topics of NSA surveillance, silk road (or tor in general), CISA, FBI/prosecutorial overreach, etc - has certain somebodies reliably pull the Frank Drebben "nothing to see here" routine regarding abuses of authority.

The shilling that gets upvoted is rarely overt. It's almost always of the "this isn't so bad, citizen, carry on" or "criminals deserve it" variety that dramatically understates or deflects the threat posed to us by authority.

Re:The Secret Surveillance Catalogue by pdkl95 on Friday December 18, 2015 @10:23AM (#10758882)
Also without naming usernames...

I've definitely seen this. This includes a handful of threads discussing legitimate concerns about BULLRUN-style influence that were suddenly insta-flagged, punted from the front page and hidden form the main index[1] by those same shills. Several times the "nothing to see here" explanation took the form of a sudden concern for "not wanting to tarnish someone's reputation".

[1] which means moderator access

edit:

Anybody that thinks this is unlikely needs to watch PHK's "Operation Orchestra":

https://archive.fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/nsa_operation...

Re:The Secret Surveillance Catalogue by cryoshon on Friday December 18, 2015 @01:59PM (#10760206)
This is a fascinating piece, thank you for sharing.