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Re:The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-dr... by Aleman360 on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @11:48AM (#10745449)
If this is the "hacker ethos" then I want nothing to do with it:

> “I live by morals, I don’t live by laws,” Hotz declared in the story. “Laws are something made by assholes.”

> “ ‘If’ statements kill.”

> “I want power. Not power over people, but power over nature and the destiny of technology. I just want to know how it all works.”

Re:The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-dr... by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @12:02PM (#10745575)
Hotz is pretty eccentric, but he's also pretty incredible. While technology wouldn't progress very far if everyone was like Hotz, I also don't think it would get very far without people like Hotz.
Re:The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-dr... by wdmeldon on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @01:17PM (#10746082)
Exactly. You can appreciate aspects of a person and the work they do without deifying them in their entirety. Linus Torvalds and weev (being an extreme example) fall into this category.
Re:The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-dr... by Aleman360 on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @01:44PM (#10746264)
Agreed. I can appreciate people who can go heads down and get things done. Where it falls apart for me is when those people get deified--or deify themselves, like that last quote demonstrates. And when they demonstrate an unwillingness to collaborate.
Re:The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-dr... by bloaf on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @12:25PM (#10745726)
Then may you get what you want.