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Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by keenerd on Tuesday December 15, 2015 @04:35PM (#10740651)
Well it is the best netbook I've seen in eight years. With the exception of the meager number of ports and the glossy screen, the hardware is wonderful.

Everything else comes down to software. Some of the difficulties were because I prefer to do things a difficult way. Eg, Arch is going to require more configuration and sound Just Works if you use Pulse. Having ALSA correctly autoconfigure everything except a single boolean flag is pretty good in my book. The warning about burning out hardware is just me passing on the advice from an engineer who actually works on these boards.

Suspend/resume is in fact flawless. It has never failed to come out of suspend, unlike quite a few thinkpads I've used. However linux does the wrong thing here with the bluetooth module. Trivial to fix, and it happens on other hardware too. Not the fault of the Flip.

Chromium doesn't run on Arch Linux ARM at all. Any hardware, regardless. So you can't hold that against the Flip. And I don't use Chromium, so this is a non-factor.

Almost everything else is the usual crap you have to put up with using garbage closed source video drivers and a kernel hacked out of ChromeOS. But I spend the majority of my time in the terminal, so the graphics are nothing I am concerned about. Similarly, I don't care about the webcam or multitouch, or HDMI because I don't own an HDMI monitor. I feel they are irrelevant details hardly worth mention, but they sound like dealbreakers to you.

Literally all I do is typing, reading, listening to music. I wanted fanless, all-day battery life, that weighs under a kilogram and is under $300. The Flip delivers and overall it has been a better experience than running Linux on a thinkpad. There are very few netbooks that could meet those requirements, and none that do it as elegantly as the Flip does. Therefor it is the best in my regard. If you disagree, it is up to you to name something superior according to the given criteria.

Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by ggreer on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @12:49AM (#10742628)
Our use-cases are similar, but if you value your time at anything reasonable, your budget should be much higher. Let me explain.

I spend about 10 hours a day on my main computer. If I upgrade every 18 months, even a $1500 machine only costs 28 cents per hour. Set aside frustration with drivers or software bugs; expensive laptops win for purely economic reasons. If a $1500 laptop makes me even 10% more productive, it's worth buying. This is the case for practically anyone who works in tech.

My current laptop is a base model 12" MacBook. It is, without a doubt, my favorite computer ever. It's small. It's light. The screen is gorgeous. It resumes before I'm done opening the lid. It has an amazing trackpad, excellent battery life, and a wonderful keyboard. With current technology, it could scarcely be improved upon. I wish there was a combination of hardware and software that could compete with it, but so far, nothing I've seen has come close.

Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by purismcomputer on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @02:55PM (#10746819)
Thank you for reminding everyone why quality matters. (We're flattered to be compared to beautifully designed things like Aeron chairs and the Mac.)

We think that once you actually see and touch the Librem, hands on, you will find the hardware is even better than a MacBook in many ways.

The Librem is definitely much faster, and the screen quality is amazing. The feel is very sturdy.

The usability, look/feel of the amazing Mac OSX is harder to exceed but we are working on the UI and ease of use in our Linux-kernel-based PureOS. It's all a work in progress.

And one more thing -- we are structured more like an Open Source project than a traditional corporation, so we are able to iterate very very rapidly.

The Librem is really created with the feedback of the backers and the community. This is what makes it at the core, very different than any other computer.

Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by keenerd on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @01:11AM (#10742693)
Nah, for $1500 I could have five of these machines. Or two laptops and a powerful headless build box. You can do a lot better than a mere 10% gain with that sort of budget. You are throwing good money at diminishing returns.
Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by ggreer on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @02:10AM (#10742831)
I think you misinterpreted my point. I didn't say a nicer laptop made me 10% more productive. The real number is likely much higher than that. I gave 10% as an example where it would still be worthwhile to pay $1500 for. Considering the hourly wage of a programmer, 28 cents is a rounding error. Yes the returns are diminishing, but they're still totally worth it.

With regards to being able to buy more equipment: I do have a powerful rack-mount server in addition to my MacBook. But being able to buy five ordinary laptops for the price of an amazing one? That's not very relevant. I can only type on one keyboard at a time. If anything, more laptops would slow me down. I'd have to keep all of their software up-to-date, sync data between them, ensure their batteries were charged, etc.

Imagine making the same argument in other domains. For the price of one plane ticket, I could buy five Greyhound bus tickets to the same destination. For the price of one quality memory-foam mattress, I could buy five innerspring mattresses. For the price of one Aeron chair, I could buy five AmazonBasics office chairs. So what? I don't want more. I want better.

Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by keenerd on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @08:59AM (#10744251)
If you are paying for Applecare, you are paying for "more not better". A second laptop is zero (amortized) overhead: every night your real laptop rsyncs back to the spare. Battery floats at 70% charge, nothing to worry about there either. Now when you spill coffee all over your laptop, you have a hot spare ready to go. If you are accident prone you can do this "for free" up to four times. Imagine the productivity gain not having to visit a store and deal with the Geniuses.

It is irresponsible to always buy the "best" when you should be looking for the best value per dollar. Your own bank account is zero-sum, be more effective with it.

Re:Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-foc... by purismcomputer on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @02:58PM (#10746836)
But the real argument to pay more for a Librem should be:

"What is my data worth?"

What is your privacy worth?

What is it worth if even one time you have your identity stolen or tax return hacked, or your company's reputation is ruined by a data breach?