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Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by wahsd on Sunday December 13, 2015 @08:57PM (#10728972)
The weird thing about these kinds of posts is that it only contributes to places like Australia, in this case, lagging behind other places like the USA. All this is is another one of those whiny posts that sets a mindset that you have to leave Australia and head to the Valley if you want to make it when what the post really should have been about is " We (Australia) really have some work to do. Here is what we need to do and how we push the government to support our industry".

It really kind of annoys me that "foreigners" fall to this victim type mentality and then rather than pushing their own local governments to change, they advocate leaving and only exacerbating the problem by draining the local talent and interest group, while piling on to the concentration of people in the tech centers like the Valley.

I would love to know what the total damage the USA does to source societies and countries by luring and essentially poaching talent and expertise away. I know that India is really kind of struggling with that issue. On one hand they see it as a source of remittances, but on the on the other hand even in a huge population like India they are really starting to feel the sting of the "brain drain" in the tech sector.

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by ajdlinux on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:05PM (#10729000)
As an Australian, it saddens me every time I hear of a friend leaving for the States. I can count at least six or seven people off the top of my head who went through my uni's computer science program - a relatively small department, I should add - at the same time as myself, and have since moved to the Bay Area.

I can't really blame them, but it'd be nice if some of the brighter ones stayed around.

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by voltagex_ on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:15PM (#10729034)
Moving to Sydney for a job could be almost as expensive as moving to the States.

I'm looking in Melbourne but the market down there seems like a mess right now.

Couple that with the falling Australian dollar and moving to the US and getting paid in USD doesn't sound so bad.

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by ajdlinux on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:19PM (#10729048)
The primary motivation for those I know who have moved to the Bay Area isn't the pay (although that certainly is part of it), it's finding more interesting work and being in the SF/SV culture.

Personally, I don't like the start-up culture, and I happen to work at a place that does interesting things already, so I'm quite happy staying in Canberra.

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by wycx on Monday December 14, 2015 @10:42PM (#10735765)
I would like to point out to those unfamiliar with Canberra, that if you live in one of the older suburbs with overhead powerlines (and not even on the radar for NBN), you can get Transact, which will supply dead stable 60 mbit VDSL2 fibre connection for ~AUD150/month on a business plan i.e. static IP.

Plus, the weather and traffic in Canberra is way better than Melbourne. (Longing for the weather to remain constant for more than 20 minutes...)

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by ajdlinux on Tuesday December 15, 2015 @01:05AM (#10736223)
I'm seriously considering upgrading my home link from ADSL2+ to VDSL2 now that I've discovered it's available in my area. It's not a sustainable long-term national infrastructure plan, but for my personal needs it'll serve me for at least a few more years.

And you're right about the traffic - Canberra is very nice in that regard.

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by jacques_chester on Monday December 14, 2015 @07:15AM (#10730581)
I moved to NYC.

NYC's tech scene is bigger than all of Australia's scenes added up.

The Bay Area is bigger than all of Australia's scenes multiplied.

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by catmanjan on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:30PM (#10729097)
Aren't you at IBM? I thought they stopped doing interesting things in the 80s
Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by ajdlinux on Sunday December 13, 2015 @10:18PM (#10729241)
Apparently mentioning the word "Canberra" magically summons people in comment threads

To answer your question, we still do interesting things :)

Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by catmanjan on Sunday December 13, 2015 @10:32PM (#10729285)
I was here first :P (see above)
Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by voltagex_ on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:20PM (#10729052)
I'm in Canberra too - contact me if you'd like a coffee.
Re:Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia... by dhruvsuyam on Monday December 14, 2015 @04:07PM (#10733875)
What is the name of the company you work for?