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Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by jacquesm on Friday December 11, 2015 @10:36AM (#10717661)
> The media focus has been solely on VW, despite others doing the same.

That's because there is evidence about VW.

> This is enough that VW can show to be unfairly targeted, as it’s standard market practice.

No, it really is not.

> If VW can show that others did the same, but did not get the same media resonance, then VW can sue for the lost sales based on an estimation of the difference in reputation loss.

It's an interesting theory about how the law could work but unfortunately somewhat detached from what I know about how the law actually works. VW does not get to claim any 'lost sales' directly attributable to their own conduct, regardless of who reported on it and how frequently even if all their competitors did it too. If VW has evidence that other manufacturers cheat as well they're probably more than welcome to present it. (And if they had such evidence they probably would.)

> Hell, even other companies in Germany have reported lost sales due to the "German engineering = pollution" that US media have pushed recently.

Yes, and VW is to blame for that. Not the US media.

Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by kuschku on Friday December 11, 2015 @11:38AM (#10718055)
The original report that caused this whole thing presented evidence for 9 companies.

9.

VW is not the only one in this whole situation.

Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by takeda on Friday December 11, 2015 @04:39PM (#10720240)
The report shown that results from the tests did not match the actual usage. It raised questions that those companies most likely are tampering with tests, but nothing incriminating. It was speculated that possibly that the tests were not reliable.

In case of VW, in addition to that report an actual device to fool the tests was discovered.

Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by waterlesscloud on Friday December 11, 2015 @12:01PM (#10718191)
Who specifically do you imagine they could sue?
Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by jacquesm on Saturday December 12, 2015 @12:58AM (#10721961)
You should go and read the report.
Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by panzagl on Friday December 11, 2015 @01:10PM (#10718738)
kuschku's comments only make sense if you assume the US media is a direct arm of the US government.
Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by kuschku on Friday December 11, 2015 @04:50PM (#10720336)
Or if you assume that you can just sue both separately.

(And, in reality, I’d say the US government is more influenced by the media than the other way around – as can be seen in the situation with Comcast, TWC, etc)

Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by jacquesm on Friday December 11, 2015 @05:30PM (#10720587)
TWC?
Re:Volkswagen and the Blame the Engineer Game by kuschku on Friday December 11, 2015 @05:37PM (#10720624)
Time Warner Cable