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Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi by pmoriarty on Monday December 07, 2015 @10:38AM (#10690068)
"Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear."

            -- Bertrand Russell
But if you think this is something, wait until Le Pen comes to power.

It's not just France either. Authoritarianism is rife in much of the rest of Europe, and the rest of the world, for that matter.

France is a particularly interesting case, however. As on the one hand they're the land of Voltaire, of the French Revolution, of the ideals of "liberté, égalité, fraternité", and on the other of authoritarianism, colonialism, and xenophobia.

Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi by vinceguidry on Monday December 07, 2015 @12:23PM (#10690867)
> Authoritarianism is rife in much of the rest of Europe, and the rest of the world, for that matter.

Europe's recent trend towards democracy was never really more than a trend. Democracy requires peace to flourish, without it people are going to value strongman leadership. Europe has only very recently shook off the threat of war. Nobody expects another great war, but it still takes a few hundred years before democratic institutions become robust enough to resist all the different ways the area can slide back into tyranny. Europe is not yet one polity, but they're moving in that direction.

Once people start thinking of themselves as European first, and French / German / Italian / etc. second, that's when you know Europe is really ready for democracy. It takes a while. It wasn't that long ago that United States citizens thought of themselves as citizens of their state first, then of the Union, the civil war cured us of that defect.

Perhaps Europe needs one more war to draw them together. Maybe a few of them. With luck those wars won't have to be martial in nature.

Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi by ekianjo on Monday December 07, 2015 @10:59AM (#10690183)
Dont make me laugh. The revolutionaries were talking about fraternity while chopping heads by the 100 000s. Study your History my friend. France has always had an authoritarian face.
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi by Kristine1975 on Monday December 07, 2015 @12:18PM (#10690812)
There was also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

>The Paris massacre of 1961 was a massacre in Paris on 17 October 1961, during the Algerian War (1954–62). Under orders from the head of the Parisian police, Maurice Papon, the French National Police attacked a demonstration of some 30,000 pro-National Liberation Front (FLN) Algerians.

>After 37 years of denial, in 1998 the French government acknowledged 40 deaths, although there are estimates of over 200.

>Many demonstrators died when they were violently herded by police into the River Seine, with some thrown from bridges after being beaten unconscious. Other demonstrators were killed within the courtyard of the Paris police headquarters after being arrested and delivered there in police buses.

Here's hoping history doesn't repeat itself.