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Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by humanrebar on Thursday December 03, 2015 @03:27PM (#10672335)
Yeah, that undermines the "non-genius" part of the premise.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by dbbolton on Thursday December 03, 2015 @04:50PM (#10672936)
I think it already undermined itself by using Jobs as the example of a genius. Da Vinci and Goethe were geniuses. Jobs was charismatic, had good business sense, and understood his markets, like virtually all successful CEOs, but I think "genius" is quite a stretch.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by ekanes on Thursday December 03, 2015 @04:54PM (#10672976)
True, but if one allows that genius is also a way to say "able to do something few others can" then Jobs would meet that definition, along with Elon Musk, etc.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by rodgerd on Thursday December 03, 2015 @05:35PM (#10673250)
At that point you've expanded your criteria to Hitler and Jesse Owens.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by matwood on Thursday December 03, 2015 @06:00PM (#10673374)
Hitler was a genius at politics and charisma. No one raises to power like without some sort of gift. He was also crazy and evil, but no one said all genius is used for good causes.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by ekanes on Thursday December 03, 2015 @06:05PM (#10673400)
Hitler was an awful human being. But he was a genius orator. Jesse Owens was a physical genius, though we'd perhaps more easily say that someone performing a more complex skill was a genius, such as Steve Nash etc. In any case, I think it's interesting and useful to think there are many kinds of genius.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by emerongi on Thursday December 03, 2015 @06:08PM (#10673416)
I'd like to see you lead a whole nation to believe your batshit crazy ideas. It takes a little bit of genius to do that.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by rfrank on Thursday December 03, 2015 @06:56PM (#10673657)
and people who speed-solve rubik's cubes.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by dbbolton on Thursday December 03, 2015 @06:36PM (#10673563)
Your definition doesn't really fit in the context of the article though, since it applies equally to Ballmer.

The author was clearly trying to foil Ballmer (in the literary sense) by painting Jobs as a much more classical type of genius than what you described.

Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by Bamafan on Thursday December 03, 2015 @07:44PM (#10673872)
Also easier to be a genius, when you have an actual genius (Wozniak) creating things the world had never seen before.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by qvikr on Saturday December 05, 2015 @12:18AM (#10680986)
THIS exactly. It's surprising how we're trying to place "genius" and "social/ extrovertism/charisma" as two ends of the same scale.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by pound on Thursday December 03, 2015 @06:48PM (#10673612)
you just seriously insulted iSheeps.
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by pound on Friday December 04, 2015 @12:10AM (#10674786)
and so did I.

to3m is absolutely correct with sheeple term for them

and yes, it's not my native language indeed

Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by to3m on Thursday December 03, 2015 @07:03PM (#10673692)
I assume English is your second language? The plural is in fact iSheeple. (This is a very, very rare form of irregular noun. I'm not surprised you weren't taught it, nor that you haven't picked it up by osmosis. You just have to memorize it as a special case.)
Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by davorb on Thursday December 03, 2015 @07:15PM (#10673747)
Isn't it just a different word entirely? (English is also my second language)

> Sheeple (a portmanteau of "sheep" and "people")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple

Re:How to be like Steve Ballmer by to3m on Thursday December 03, 2015 @07:24PM (#10673780)
Yes, it is. This is my strange English humour failing to cross cultural boundaries (again), I'm afraid. The correct plural of "iSheep" is however still certainly "iSheeple"!