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Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by zeveb on Friday November 20, 2015 @03:57PM (#10603831)
> the government in power currently in Iran deposed the government that the US set up

The U.S. did not 'set up' the Shah; he was the legitimate ruler of Persia. Nor did the U.S. overthrow a 'democratically-elected leader'; the Shah's legitimate government successfully defeated a coup attempt by his prime minister Mossadegh, who died peacefully under house arrest years later.

Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by jacquesm on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:13PM (#10603920)
Is this sarcasm?

I'm asking because I don't see any markers indicating that it is and I get this wrong every 3rd comment or so.

If it isn't sarcasm you are somewhat mis-informed. If it is sarcasm then please ignore this comment.

As for the Shah, he was very much there with the support of the oil industry, but that doesn't make him all bad. He wanted to make Persia a modern state and in doing so upset the Mullahs which culminated in the return of banished Ayatollah Khomeini (who resided in Paris, of all places during his exile), and how that ended we probably all already know.

Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by hackuser on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:31PM (#10604012)
> As for the Shah, he was very much there with the support of the oil industry, but that doesn't make him all bad. He wanted to make Persia a modern state and in doing so upset the Mullahs

IIRC, he oppressed, imprisoned, tortured and killed people in large numbers, for decades.

Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by jacquesm on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:49PM (#10604098)
Yes, he did that too. (Especially to his opponents.) The keyword is 'SAVAK'. (See comment elsewhere in this thread). The Shah was a dictator in every sense of the word, but surprisingly, he had some good sides too.
Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by intopieces on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:51PM (#10604112)
I would grateful if you could cite a source for this information, as it runs counter to all the sources I'm familiar with. A few examples are:

An Introduction to the Modern Middle East: History, Religion, Political Economy by David S. Sorenson (Page 202) http://bit.ly/1S9HrTA

The Cold War Museum http://www.coldwar.org/articles/50s/OperationAjax.asp

If the U.S. didn't overthrow Mossadegh, why did the CIA admit to doing so years later in declassified documents?

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB435/

Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by lotux on Friday November 20, 2015 @03:59PM (#10603847)
oh my god, you should get hired by FoxNews
Re:Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It by dang on Friday November 20, 2015 @06:10PM (#10604495)
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