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Re:Drupal 8.0.0 released by zdw on Friday November 20, 2015 @02:46PM (#10603380)
> Wordpress is much faster to setup and get a nice looking site up and running.

I would argue that this is faster than most Wordpress setups:

    drush dl drupal
    drush si drupal ...
    drush en "name of theme"
Wordpress is easier to set up only for the "I still use tools from a decade or two ago" crowd.
Re:Drupal 8.0.0 released by lucideer on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:49PM (#10604099)
The above three drush commands get a site technically functioning, but it's typically a long way off being a "nice site" or being "up and running" in the push to production sense.

WordPress's out-of-the-box post install experience is a lot nicer and a lot closer to being a "finished" and ready site.

Re:Drupal 8.0.0 released by donutdan4114 on Friday November 20, 2015 @02:53PM (#10603420)
I mean, I don't just mean setting up a bare site. Between setting up content types, fields, putting in content, downloading additionally needed modules (which got better in D8 with Views/Twig/CKEditor in core), and how much custom theming has to go into a Drupal site, I feel like WP is generally much faster to deal with and has more beautiful themes/widgets that you can just plug n' play. However, I'm not an expert in WP dev. But I wouldn't recommend Drupal to a very small business that needs a basic site. For that I would recommend WP, squarespace, wix, or equivalent. I would only recommend Drupal if someone needed some enhanced functionality, in which case, Drupal is a great platform.
Re:Drupal 8.0.0 released by butterfi on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:05PM (#10603874)
That's presuming they can have command line access and the tools/know how to install drush. I suspect a lot of WP installs start with a single click button on a graphic UI.
Re:Drupal 8.0.0 released by anon6_ on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:27PM (#10603995)
Both have an easy CLI setup:

http://wp-cli.org/

There are solutions catering to SAAS/application-specific hosting for both. Wordpress.com / Drupal Gardens as well as containers and configurations scripts you can use to get a jump start.

Both have similar philosophies in the sense you can login and immediately start switching on modules/extensions you want to use. Both are CMS.

Re:Drupal 8.0.0 released by lucideer on Friday November 20, 2015 @04:40PM (#10604060)
How much experience do you have using wp-cli? Drupal/drush are a long long way off perfect but comparing drush to wp-cli is apples and oranges.

wp-cli is extremely brittle even for very simple download+install, produces very poor defaults in terms of file/directory permissions and general on-filesystem stuff, and this is before you get into things like drush's many other functions for general admin or its extensibility.

That is not a criticism of wp-cli's developers though, as about 99.9% of its limitations are down to the Wordpress core team's complete disinterest in accommodating its functionality well or in providing a codebase that fits into a modern deployment setup in any reliable, well-considered way.

The work done on wp-cli is really commendable: it seems to be battling against quite a tide.