Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by ethomson on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:19AM
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Monaco was not an acquisition. Microsoft hired Erich Gamma, who built a team in Switzerland to develop Monaco (and later Visual Studio Code).
Visual Studio Code is not a fork of Visual Studio Online. Visual Studio Online (now Visual Studio Team Services) is not a text editor, it's an ALM system.
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by tomp on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:12AM
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Why is refactoring code from JavaScript to TypeScript a bad thing? Short of using a better, but non-web-compatible language, I don't really see a better option.
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by softawre on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:15AM
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Right. It's a good thing IMO. Even for pure Javascript, VSCode has some of the best code-completion I've seen (outside of Visual Studio).
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by frik on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:21AM
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Do you remember CoffeeScript?
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by eropple on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:44AM
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I think reasonable people can probably agree that there is a difference in kind between CoffeeScript and TypeScript. CoffeeScript was functionally equivalent to JavaScript, whereas TypeScript has feature-level improvements that are worth a developer's time. Sure, TypeScript is pushed by Microsoft. It's also an excellent solution for large-scale systems, its adoption is nontrivial, and Microsoft has a history of supporting its tools (Managed C++ aside, I suppose) in a way that can offer a promise of consistency on its own.
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by mmebane on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:56AM
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Microsoft has also been doing a good job of keeping TypeScript aligned as JavaScript++ by absorbing ES6 features into the language. I was initially worried that TypeScript would be a fork of JavaScript and eventually diverge enough that it was painful to use, but there aren't any signs of that happening yet.
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by cballard on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @12:08PM
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"was"? What happened to Coffeescript, is it dead now?
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by eropple on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @03:42PM
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I don't mean to imply it's dead, but I think it's safe to say it's resting? I haven't heard of new development being done in it in a while, and its time in the spotlight certainly seems to be over.
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by aljones on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @02:39PM
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Well, no, but it has developed a taste for brains.
"Hey, I created this program in Java!"
"Do you remember C++?"
You seems like I guy that's really pleasing to discuss programming languages with.
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by m_st on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:22AM
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Personally (!) I don't agree with your negative points.
We refactored a JS SPA to TypeScript and couldn't be happier about it. So that 'bad' point is fixed.
They use TypeScript also for the TFS web interface, on premise and online and are very happy with the result. There an article on bharrys blog on MSDN about that. So that 'ugly' point is fixed.
Is there really anything bad about TypeScript?
Re:Visual Studio Code is now open source
by adam12 on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @11:32AM
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I fail to see how refactoring to Typescript is a negative thing. It outputs beautiful Javascript. So now, they have Typescript which helps them immensely while developing, plus they have a better version of the Javascript code they started with.
The bad: they refactored it to TypeScript (from Javascript)
The ugly: the sole existence of TypeScript and some ES6 syntax is the monaco editor project and Visual Studio Online and Visual Studio Code is a fork of it.