Breivik was most certainly part of a movement. They have web forums and everything.

I am aware of the "white power" movement that exists online, some are just trolls but some are serious, and there is always this moment in which it feels the jokes are a little too sincere...I say this as a non-white male. Moreover, beyond stormfront and trolls, there do indeed exist political, nationalist parties and groups.

Nonetheless, Breivik, unless I'm wrong about it, was not part of a movement trying to dominate the world and install a Christian kingdom, so ISIS differs from the white "movement" in that regard.

In regards to the current discussion, I am not sure which side of the argument I am on. I am not a Muslim so I can only comment from what I see from the outside. I have Muslim friends who are not at all sympathetic to ISIS or any of its friends, so I don't find it hard to believe that most Muslims find ISIS reprehensible as most Christians found Breivik. However, I have the opinion that nations in the region need to step up because ISIS threatens their freedom. There needs desperately to be a fight against ISIS in the form of a fight against their ideology... a movement that teaches that hatred and intolerance is not the way of Islam. I am not a Muslim, so I have no right to demand that of my Muslim brothers and sisters, especially as they've endured much in terms of discrimination in France (as that fascinating New Yorker pointed out) and elsewhere, but the ideology of hatred will survive bombs and invasions, if not be inflamed by it. The only way we can defeat ISIS is to defeat their message.

> Breivik, unless I'm wrong about it, was not part of a movement trying to dominate the world and install a Christian kingdom, so ISIS differs from the white "movement" in that regard.

The biggest difference is - for want of a better word and I'm really sorry about using that term in the current context - because of their ability to execute. They would if they could, they just can't.

>"They would if they could, they just can't."

And in this simplistic scenario, why would you posit is the reason they "can't"?

Because the movement is comparatively small, does not have a lot of funds and is under relatively close scrutiny already. But in every EU country it is present, in every EU country there are wanna-be Breiviks. The Norwegians also did a supremely good job of not letting him become either a martyr or an inspiration.

Let's rejoice about that (About Breivik being only an individual, actually he's not quite just an individual, there are more idiots like that but so far they haven't been able to do a whole lot of damage in Western Europe, let's hope it stays that way).