Re:VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris ...
by jacquesm on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @03:22PM
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> Breivik, unless I'm wrong about it, was not part of a movement trying to dominate the world and install a Christian kingdom, so ISIS differs from the white "movement" in that regard.
The biggest difference is - for want of a better word and I'm really sorry about using that term in the current context - because of their ability to execute. They would if they could, they just can't.
Re:VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris ...
by zo1 on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @04:56PM
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>"They would if they could, they just can't."
And in this simplistic scenario, why would you posit is the reason they "can't"?
Re:VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris ...
by jacquesm on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @07:41PM
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Because the movement is comparatively small, does not have a lot of funds and is under relatively close scrutiny already. But in every EU country it is present, in every EU country there are wanna-be Breiviks. The Norwegians also did a supremely good job of not letting him become either a martyr or an inspiration.
Nonetheless, Breivik, unless I'm wrong about it, was not part of a movement trying to dominate the world and install a Christian kingdom, so ISIS differs from the white "movement" in that regard.
In regards to the current discussion, I am not sure which side of the argument I am on. I am not a Muslim so I can only comment from what I see from the outside. I have Muslim friends who are not at all sympathetic to ISIS or any of its friends, so I don't find it hard to believe that most Muslims find ISIS reprehensible as most Christians found Breivik. However, I have the opinion that nations in the region need to step up because ISIS threatens their freedom. There needs desperately to be a fight against ISIS in the form of a fight against their ideology... a movement that teaches that hatred and intolerance is not the way of Islam. I am not a Muslim, so I have no right to demand that of my Muslim brothers and sisters, especially as they've endured much in terms of discrimination in France (as that fascinating New Yorker pointed out) and elsewhere, but the ideology of hatred will survive bombs and invasions, if not be inflamed by it. The only way we can defeat ISIS is to defeat their message.