Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings changed on NSA surveillance?

Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by pdkl95 on Monday November 16, 2015 @11:06PM (#10579112)

Yes, we did.

Justice Roberts in his opinion for Riley v California.

    Our cases have recognized that the Fourth Amendment was the founding
    generation's response to the reviled "general warrants" and "writs of
    assistance" of the colonial era, which allowed British officers to
    rummage through homes in an unrestrained search for evidence of
    criminal activity. Opposition to such searches was in fact on of the
    driving forces behind the Revolution itself. [...]

    Modern cell phones are not just another technological convenience.
    With all they contain and all they may reveal, they hold for many
    Americans "the privacies of life." The fact that technology now allows
    an individual to carry such information in his hand does not make the
    information any less worth of the protection for which the Founders fought.

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Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by carterehsmith on Monday November 16, 2015 @11:22PM (#10579154)

So you are saying that we fought for independence because British were invading our privacy? They were opening our snailmail and were reading it and that's why we fought for independence. Right.

I have never seen any credible historian claim that. Good luck with that line of reasoning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

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Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by pdkl95 on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @03:18AM (#10579815)

Let me guess, you're a strict constructionist? This quibble about the specific word "privacy" is a useless distraction and a waste of time.

If you aren't convinced, go research the various SCOTUS cases that recognized that the right to privacy is implicit in the constitution. I quoted a recent SCOTUS opinion already.

Also, Article 1, Section 1 of the California Constitution:

    All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights.
    Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring,
    possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety,
    happiness, and privacy.
                   ^^^^^^^

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Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by cb18 on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @05:49PM (#10584591)

So you are saying that we fought for independence because British were invading our privacy?

Not only is he saying it, so is the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, whom he quoted. Opposition to such searches was in fact on of the driving forces behind the Revolution itself.

Did you even read the above paragraphs?

Yes, there were obviously other factors as well.

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