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Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by uptown on Monday November 16, 2015 @04:41PM (#10577415)
There's not enough listeners for the number of music services. If your service stumbles, it's easy to move onto something else, so you really only get one or no chances to convince your potential customers.

My experience with Rdio was one of frustration. Their desktop player was buggy and frequently failed to play anything at all. When it did work, I found the consistency of the music catalog to be unreliable. One week they'd have the license to an album I wanted to listen-to, and then they'd lose it, and I couldn't listen to that anymore. I'm not sure what factors were at-play on their end to cause that to happen, but it was a horrible experience for he listener.

I wanted to like Rdio, but they failed at the basics in my experience.

Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by JonFish85 on Monday November 16, 2015 @04:57PM (#10577524)
"There's not enough listeners for the number of music services. If your service stumbles, it's easy to move onto something else, so you really only get one or no chances to convince your potential customers."

I agree, and even feel more strongly about it. Even if you don't stumble, it's hard to compete with Google and Apple at this point, because they have their services tightly tied in with their other products. Buy an iPhone (hell, or even a laptop or tablet), and Apple Music is integrated out of the box. Same with Google Music.

Personally I think Spotify is doomed to fail (for various definitions of "fail") for the same reason. There are some people who want their music decoupled from their OS/hardware, but I think there are so many more than want it to "just work", and I think that Apple & Google have a better shot at that than anyone else, at this point.

Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by p0wnd on Monday November 16, 2015 @05:01PM (#10577557)
I won't switch from Spotify though because it meets my needs and furthermore they keep innovating. One thing I can look forward to in getting back to the office on Monday is my new week's playlist that Spotify creates for me. I listen to a wide variety of music and they have helped me discover a lot o f artists and songs I'm really into.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by dom96 on Monday November 16, 2015 @06:51PM (#10578213)
Totally agree. Spotify's weekly discover playlists have made me look forward to Mondays.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by derrickdirge on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @12:21PM (#10582557)
'Discover Weekly' is the one feature keeping me with Spotify. Their UI annoys me on a daily basis, but I've got a lot of great recommendations from them. Frankly, I wish Apple would mirror this feature, though it goes against their whole 'human curated playlists' philosophy.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by thinkingkong on Monday November 16, 2015 @04:45PM (#10577447)
Interesting. The only reason I used rdio was because of all of the good initial impressions designers and product people I knew had of it. The biggest assumption it made was that people understood the 'sliding pane' UI as being self evident, and it wasn't.

Wouldn't the only reason there being limited choice be because of the way music deals are structured? I'm not familiar enough with how those work but having a mismatch of payouts / winning labels vs listeners would be a problem.

Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by daigoba66 on Monday November 16, 2015 @05:45PM (#10577848)
Apple, etc., should open an API and SDK to allow developers to build better and innovative UIs on top of the data and streams. The UI is what I enjoyed most about Rdio and enjoy least about Apple Music and others.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by KingMob on Monday November 16, 2015 @05:26PM (#10577720)
Catalog consistency was probably a licensing issue and not technological, I should point out. Same reason movies just disappear from Netflix every so often.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by uptown on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @07:10AM (#10580543)
It absolutely was a licensing issue. But it results in a horrible experience for the end user.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by cruelfate on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @04:09AM (#10579963)
As a music nerd, no, it's not easy to move along to another service. Rdio was the closest thing to a social environment that was all about the music, not one's irrelevant social graph. I benefitted from studying hundreds of curated playlists, whose affinity was learned from what the site offered. Spotify, et al, doesn't do that.
Re:Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Wi... by buttscicles on Monday November 16, 2015 @04:44PM (#10577442)
My experience was mostly the same. The mobile apps were awful when your connection was spotty and frequently refused to actually play music or skip track, meaning I'd have to kill the process.

Being unable to add local tracks like I can with spotify is a killer feature that was missing as well.