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Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by Phlarp on Monday November 16, 2015 @04:40PM (#10577409)
Yes-- My feelings have become even more negative as this is yet another instance where there was undoubtedly plenty of evidence within existing surveillance programs to have prevented this.

As usual nobody could stop playing bureaucrat long enough to find it, but now that it's happened NSA will surely have no problem helping france find targets to hit in Syria and Iraq. To say nothing about how various agencies will use this event as a flagrant power grab.

Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by gizmo on Monday November 16, 2015 @04:46PM (#10577454)
Time and time again the terrorists turn out to be people who were already being monitored by conventional intelligence strategies. However, the difficulty is in spotting the difference between people with terrorist sympathies and people who are an imminent threat. Harvesting more data won't help with this at all.
Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by chrisbennet on Monday November 16, 2015 @05:43PM (#10577834)
Actually, more data probably hurts - adding more "noise" to hunt through.
Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by jrowley on Monday November 16, 2015 @11:35PM (#10579185)
I'm genuinely curious, if it's not more data, what do we need to differentiate between a would be terrorist and a run of the mill extremist? Like better systems for prioritizing, filtering people?
Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by Phlarp on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @12:56PM (#10582792)
The argument wasn't that we should be doing things better in order to make these systems "valuable".

The argument was that these types of things simply cannot be done with the current state of tech, and any attempts by governments to do so should be viewed by the public as both useless wastes of public funds and thinly veiled power grabs-- similar to how we view authoritarian regimes that try to extend their own term limits or institute a national curfew in response to political protests.

Re:Ask HN: After the Paris Attack, have your feelings change... by jrowley on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @06:40PM (#10584842)
ahh thank you! So instead of trying to prevent attacks by intercepting them (which is probably doomed to fail anyway), we should work on the greater issue of diplomacy in general.