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Re:Why Free Can Be a Problem on the Internet by Dylan16807 on Sunday November 15, 2015 @09:52PM (#10572365)
"Free video" is not really a problem, as long as it applies to all video.

But let me ask you something. Do you think the rules that force telephone companies to connect to everyone are a bad thing? I think the way that's been handled is good, and that forcing data caps to apply equally is pretty similar.

Re:Why Free Can Be a Problem on the Internet by netneutralish on Sunday November 15, 2015 @10:08PM (#10572406)
The regulation that forced telephone companies to connect to everyone is good in my books. That is an accessibility concern. If you're going to use that as the analogy, I'd say the content accessibility concern over wireless networks (in this case, T-Mobile) is also being met.

Data caps still apply to all T-Mobile wireless subscribers also, although I can see that the spirit of your argument is that carriers shouldn't try to exert influence over data endpoints (typically referred to as "content"). But, using your same POTS analogy, does this mean that 1-800 toll-free numbers should have been banned or regulated out of existence? The interesting point is that in this case, T-Mobile is working around the FCC Net Neutrality laws by making it clear that this is a free program for specific content partners to participate in; it's like "free toll-free" for content that might appeal the most to consumers (streaming audio and video).

Re:Why Free Can Be a Problem on the Internet by Dylan16807 on Sunday November 15, 2015 @10:53PM (#10572519)
Good question about toll-free numbers. I think the difference is that a business pays their phone provider to do toll free service. It's closer to buying a better line to the internet than it is negotiating with individual consumer ISPs for preferred service. Competition rather than the ISP taking advantage of being the only path.
Re:Why Free Can Be a Problem on the Internet by rhino369 on Sunday November 15, 2015 @10:16PM (#10572425)
A lot of the classic telecom regulations were taken at a time when the telephone company had a legal monopoly over all customers. Everyone had to sign up with AT&T.

So there were very good reasons the government got to dictate their business models. It was quid pro quo.

But I don't think interchangeability is the same as treating them equally. AT&T had to connect you to anywhere globally, but it didn't have to do it for the same price. Local vs. long distance vs. international.

Some cellphone companies even had "pick 5 free number" plans. Nothing bad happened.

Plus the internet seems to achieve total interactivity without it being mandated. Though a lot of the backbone internet came from regulated telecomms. Maybe I can't count on the internet developing in a free for all.

Re:Why Free Can Be a Problem on the Internet by Dylan16807 on Sunday November 15, 2015 @10:35PM (#10572475)
> Local vs. long distance vs. international.

That fits in with saying that broad categories are fine, but you can't charge extra for me to call specific stores.

The internet is doing pretty well, but you get ridiculous things like ISPs wanting Netflix to pay to peer even though all the traffic is initiated on the ISP end.