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Re:Apple in Talks with US Banks to Develop Mobile Person-To-... by matthewmacleod on Wednesday November 11, 2015 @04:38PM (#10549494)
Seems to be the latest push by Apple to integrate Apple Pay into some sort of payments ecosystem by force.

I'm not sure why you'd consider this to be 'by force' – surely having a large market share, and offering a decent experience, are enough reasons for an ecosystem to develop because users want it?

Re:Apple in Talks with US Banks to Develop Mobile Person-To-... by roymurdock on Wednesday November 11, 2015 @05:06PM (#10549683)
surely having a large market share

Having a large market share of what, the smartphone market? It's the users of the peer-to-peer payment service/application that they need, and they have 0 of those right now.

Venmo already has millions of those users (many of whom who use iPhones) due to a good UX/UI and seamless integration with all major banks/card providers. So what value does apple bring to the table if my network is already set up on Venmo?

Re:Apple in Talks with US Banks to Develop Mobile Person-To-... by matthewmacleod on Wednesday November 11, 2015 @05:44PM (#10549935)
Having a large market share of what, the smartphone market? It's the users of the peer-to-peer payment service/application that they need, and they have 0 of those right now.

I think having a large smartphone platform to which you can roll out new features is really useful! There are what – maybe 4-5 million active Apple Pay users? That's a decent chunk of in-built market for the service, assuming it's seamlessly available to them all.

Obviously P2P Apple Pay doesn't offer you much benefit if you've already got a working solution to the problem.

Re:Apple in Talks with US Banks to Develop Mobile Person-To-... by roymurdock on Wednesday November 11, 2015 @05:57PM (#10550001)
It is definitely a benefit, but it's a far cry from guaranteed success. I have a trash folder full of 10 or so Apple pre-installed apps and I'm sure many others do as well. Apple P2P Pay will most likely be another one of those for me, which is why I see it as a catch-up play and one they will have to force on the market.