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Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by argonaut on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @05:49AM (#10538614)
Why is this even a question? According to Facebook itself, it's mostly human-driven.

http://recode.net/2015/11/03/facebooks-virtual-assistant-m-i...

Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by BukhariH on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @06:14AM (#10538704)
> "The opinion is split as to whether or not it’s a real AI, and there seems to be no way of proving its nature on way or the other."

Clearly, the author didn't even do the most basic fact checking. Since, Facebook clearly told everyone that M was going to be AI that was assisted by humans.

It's literally in the announcement post: https://www.facebook.com/Davemarcus/posts/10156070660595195

> "It's powered by artificial intelligence that's trained and supervised by people."

Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by icebraining on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @06:22AM (#10538730)
But that's exactly the point: is it AI trained by people, or people aided by AI tools? It's not the same.
Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by ikeboy on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @09:08AM (#10539311)
Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by acqq on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @11:59AM (#10540499)
Yes, the article is explicit: "For more complicated tasks, such as making a driving test appointment at the DMV, the humans will do most of the heavy lifting. They’ll actually place a call to the DMV."
Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by azernik on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:05PM (#10542496)
I think there's a large space where the two are indeed the same.
Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by tonylucas on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @05:55PM (#10543245)
I think that also depends on who is actually completing/fulfilling the task, in the DMV example its AI adding context to a task that can't be automated easily.

The AI can still do the requirements/information gathering and leaving the job for a person to do. For common issues (support triage, customer service issues) even this still has significant value.

Equally from a training point of view, it may simply be the person correcting/confirming the AI is right, and leaving it to get on with the process, rather than fallover to the human completely.

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Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by dang on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @02:36PM (#10541795)
> You know how to read, great for you.

Please don't be uncivil on Hacker News.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by mrdrozdov on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @07:24AM (#10538903)
That's simply not true. There is such thing as unsupervised learning in AI.
Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by betandr on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @08:21AM (#10539076)
I suppose the interesting point is more that it's being marketed as not really operated by humans as a positive when in many instance in our modern world the reverse is true. And also it's an interesting application of the Turing Test too. :)
Re:Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test by br3w5 on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @07:53AM (#10538983)
I think it's an interesting exercise in how to prove the level of human involvement in this AI.