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Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by jamesbrownuhh on Sunday November 08, 2015 @04:38PM (#10530070)
People would pay good money for that kind of secure erasure if it could be triggered on demand. :)
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by intrasight on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:20PM (#10531365)
There was a company which used to make hard drives for the military (perhaps they still do, but nothing on Google) which had a physical pull tab on the back which released an acid into the drive enclosure. Anyone remember this? I read about it perhaps 10 years ago.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by CaptSpify on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:00AM (#10531479)
Was it an acid? I've heard of thermite or magnesium. Same idea though
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by intrasight on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @11:00AM (#10540081)
I assume was something like acid since it released a liquid into the cavity.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by monochromatic on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:42PM (#10531435)
Sounds vaguely familiar to me too.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by kabdib on Sunday November 08, 2015 @08:29PM (#10530932)
... and not by malware :-)
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by monochromatic on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:42PM (#10531434)
Definitely something you want to trigger by physical contact, not pure software.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by geocrasher on Sunday November 08, 2015 @10:42PM (#10531262)
I remember tearing into one of these that died, and found similar things. What was interesting too was that it seemed to be caused by a screw coming loose. The entire head assembly rides on a bearing, which is bolted to the chassis, usually on both ends. If I remember right, this one was only bolted on one end, the screw didn't have any thread locking compound on it. It came loose, instant head crash.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by mjevans on Sunday November 08, 2015 @09:22PM (#10531065)
Back before I could afford the minor increase in cost of ECC ram, and the larger cost of using RAID 1 or 5 or 6; I got bitten by this very issue in my personal hardware.

Just one of many times that I've been taught. Any data that is actually /valued/ should have a backup. Redundancy in operation is more a hedge against hardware failure, and unplanned downtime.

Integrity costs; pay for it. This is true everywhere.

Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by aidenn0 on Sunday November 08, 2015 @10:08PM (#10531172)
It's not really a minor increase in cost for ECC ram; the CPU and motherboards that support ECC ram are considerably more expensive. To top it off, many times motherboards cannot support the full capacity of ram with ECC installed; my workstation can accept up to 8GB DIMMs with non-ECC and 4GB DIMMS with ECC.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by asadhaider on Sunday November 08, 2015 @08:20PM (#10530911)
What was that blue stuff in the drive?
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by escape_goat on Sunday November 08, 2015 @08:46PM (#10530968)
I believe that it would be lubricant from the hydrodynamic bearing[1] inside the hard drive.

[1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_bearing ]

Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by asadhaider on Sunday November 08, 2015 @09:04PM (#10531009)
Thanks, that was interesting to read. I take it that helium-filled hard drives work in a similar way?
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by Sanddancer on Sunday November 08, 2015 @10:02PM (#10531161)
Exact same way. The only difference is that helium is much less dense than air, so there's a lot less drag and thus the drive is more efficient.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by morcheeba on Sunday November 08, 2015 @10:46PM (#10531274)
That's just glue to hold the shielding plate on. You'll notice its nowhere near the bearings; in fact, it's on the outside of the case.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by Bud on Sunday November 08, 2015 @08:43PM (#10530958)
Phlogiston.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by serpentor on Sunday November 08, 2015 @09:36PM (#10531096)
So I guess the disk platters used a glass substrate, coated in a layer of magnetic medium?
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by porsupah on Sunday November 08, 2015 @10:27PM (#10531216)
Indeed so.

http://www.computerhistory.org/groups/storagesig/media/docs/...

'The drive, a 7,200RPM Deskstar 75GB drive, was released on 15 March last year [2000]. At the time, the press release announced excitedly that the drive was "the first IBM drive to use glass disk platters instead of aluminium ... allowing the recording head to read smaller bits of information that are packed more closely together. In addition, glass disks are more stable at higher speeds".'

Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by PhasmaFelis on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:37PM (#10531423)
> was asked to see if we could determine the cause of the crash, as well as to determine if it would be possible to recover any of the data on the drive.

If it had been possible, it would have ceased being so after you took it apart at your desk!

Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by Confusion on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:22AM (#10531763)
Untrue. I once opened up a hard disk, left it open for a day, closed it up again and used it without errors for another year (though never for important data). And no, not this was not inside a cleanroom.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by rrrx3 on Sunday November 08, 2015 @08:47PM (#10530970)
Ahh, I remember this scandal. What's funny is that there were tons of people affected by this from what i recall, because these drives were initially billed as some of the best hardware money could buy.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by jschwartzi on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:23PM (#10531376)
I actually had one of these disks, and used it as my main system drive for 6 years before finally retiring the entire system.
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by geocrasher on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:43AM (#10531559)
Yup some of them were fine. It was only certain capacity disks that had the issue. They solved the primary problem eventually. By then the reputation was already tarnished. "Death Star".
Re:Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003) by jloughry on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:42AM (#10531556)
I wonder how many bits each particle of dust represented?