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Re:A Look at the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement by simonh on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @07:08AM (#10505937)
> i like other bees don't care about the eco-system. i care about the nectar from the flowers so i can go on.

No ecosystem -> no flowers -> no nectar -> no honey bee.

You don't have to give a fig about the ecosystem in itself, as an object, to care about the effects of damaging or destroying it on yourself and the rest of us and our descendants.

I agree with you that we are animals, but even other animals care about the welfare of each other and their descendants. Even squirrels will risk their lives to protect their offspring, and bees will sacrifice their lives in defence of the colony. Fortunately for us, we are able to anticipate and take action to prevent longer term threats to our welfare and that of those we care about. We should do so.

Re:A Look at the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement by rralian on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @07:56AM (#10506118)
> You don't have to give a fig about the ecosystem in itself, as an object, to care about the effects of damaging or destroying it on yourself and the rest of us and our descendants.

But if the destruction is slow, you do have to care about the other bees.