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Re:RoboVM Is No Longer Open-Source by bad_user on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @09:17AM (#10499634)
You seem to show contempt for people preferring open-source platforms. Well, I for one refuse to build on top of proprietary platforms, because there have been countless of examples of people getting burned. One way people get burned is because of bait and switch strategies, often employed by companies (especially startups) in order to attract interest and grow their product in popularity and then breaking their original promise. Or sometimes the company gets acquired in an acquihire and the product simply vanishes. One famous and recent example is FoundationDB - I'm pretty sure that the people that invested time and resources in FoundationDB are sorry for doing it.

I also don't see how the "freetards" killed RoboVM, but you seem to agree with me that RoboVM is dead.

Re:RoboVM Is No Longer Open-Source by agentgt on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @10:07AM (#10499988)
WURFL did a very similar thing as well and it felt pretty disingenuous. Consequently we ended up switching to 51Degrees.

I personally don't like the OSS bait and switch tactic either. I prefer when companies offer other products, extensions, and/or services on top of the OSS core. If the company is still major contributors they still can shape the OSS core more suited to their proprietary offerings.

Re:RoboVM Is No Longer Open-Source by pjmlp on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @12:18PM (#10500944)
It just happens that I am from the generation that used to pay for software.

Also I kind of lost my FOSS enthusiasm, after learning the hard way if software is the product one sells, there is hardly any money to pay the bills, if the product isn't amendable to consulting and support.

We are far from the supermarket taking pull requests.

Re:RoboVM Is No Longer Open-Source by michaelmrose on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @08:54AM (#10499507)
"we have seen competitors actively exploiting our good faith by using our open source code to compete with us directly in commercial products. On the flip side, we have received almost no meaningful contributions to our open source code."

The first indicates that they unwisely picked a license that allowed their competitors to do that and hoped they would share out of the kindness of their heart, the second indicates that they failed to find people interested in working for free on their commercial product.

Maybe if they had been less generous with their competitors they would have paid them money which could have made it possible to keep it free.

So no the "freetards" didn't kill it and by using such terms instead of logical arguments you reveal the quality of your intellect.

Re:RoboVM Is No Longer Open-Source by oldmanjay on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @01:11PM (#10501336)
Your last sentence ruined the point you worked hard to build in the first three paragraphs.