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Re:Bob Lutz thinks Tesla is doomed by OrwellianChild on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @05:10PM (#10467441)
Previous commentary here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10454706

Re-posting my comment from the prior conversation:

Bob Lutz is the author. He's moonlighting as a talking head after being the consummate insider of the automotive industry in the United States, having worked for all of the Big 3 (GM, Ford, and Chrysler) as well as BMW [1]. This is pretty much like taking your advice on smoking cigarettes from R.J. Reynolds. [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lutz_(businessman)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._J._Reynolds

Re:Bob Lutz thinks Tesla is doomed by sandstrom on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @05:20PM (#10467512)
# Gasoline is cheap

True, though in Europe prices are 200-300% higher[1]. Mostly because European countries tax gasoline heavily, because of it's negative environmental impact.

Probably not an issue for expensive vehicles (no-one buy them for fuel savings), but will be for cheaper models.

# Battery tech isn't special

I think this is a good point. I'd guess other auto-makers can do this fairly easily, as long as they do it at scale (and they are good at scale in other areas).

# Company stores doesn't work

As I've understood it they don't carry inventory in their stores, it's only a showroom -- even in countries where they are allowed to sell directly to consumers (all except the US). Cars still ordered, i.e. no inventory (except for test-drive).

# Model X won't sell

I guess it's a bit too early to tell, but it seems like they are mainly production-limited right now (which is a problem in it's own right!).

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I think a major factor is being overlooked, which will determine both the fate of Tesla and other car-makers: software.

I'd guess 75% of innovation in cars during the next 10 years will be in software. The company that does this best will do really well. Tesla should be well-positioned.

[1] http://autotraveler.ru/en/spravka/fuel-price-in-europe.html#...

Re:Bob Lutz thinks Tesla is doomed by ztratar on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @04:43PM (#10467256)
His logic is relatively weak. His proposal for Tesla to build a hybrid is laughable. This is why Bob Lutz is old guard.
Re:Bob Lutz thinks Tesla is doomed by halleym on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @05:15PM (#10467477)
Everything about the Tesla vehicles is based on them not being a hybrid. The entire design would have to be scrapped. Ha ha ha.