Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by gizi on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @07:39AM
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That really depends. Productivity differs between programmers with orders of magnitude. Assuming a career of 35 years, this programmer only grosses 1680000$. That is 6 zeroes. So, that would be a level-6 programmer. By programming Google Search, Sergey Brin and Larry Page produced half a trillion in value. That is 11 zeroes, corresponding to level 11. For example, if you can get a level 8 programmer to work at level 6 for you, you are into making truckloads of money. You could easily beef him up to level 7 and still be laughing all the way to the bank. But then again, most employers are not particularly working on level-8 subjects. I suspect that the problem is rather at that level than anywhere else; especially in France. What software worth mentioning have they ever built over there? Of course, they can't pay anybody anything. From what money would they be doing that anyway?
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Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by mason55 on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @09:23AM
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> especially in France. What software worth mentioning have they ever built over there?
BusinessObjects, Mandriva, Dailymotion, Archos,
Ubisoft is French, so Assassain's Creed, Drive, Far Cry, Tom Clancy series
Alcatel and Orange are French telecommunications companies that are pretty famous
Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by herge on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @11:32AM
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Assassain's Creed and Far Cry might have had some work done by the French Ubisoft HQ, but most of the work was "offshored" to the friendly same-language-speaking Montreal offices.
Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by mercurial on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @05:13PM
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OCaml, Coq. Embarrassingly, Criteo is a French company.
Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by SolaceQuantum on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @10:35AM
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I thought Ubisoft was from Montreal?
Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by mfoy_ on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @03:42PM
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Ubisoft's largest development studio is in Montreal, Canada... but their headquarters is in Montreuil, France.[1]
So it's fair to say Ubisoft's products are French (from France, not the language) products.
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Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by kelvin0 on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:52PM
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UbiSoft == French Company (France) having offices among others situated in Montreal, Québec (Canada).In Montreal mostly French is spoken (English being a close second).
The Montreal Studio of Ubi is responsible for the games you mention ...
Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by thaumasiotes on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @04:52PM
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Sergey Brin and Larry Page didn't make their money by programming, though.
Taking your methodology at face value, the guy employing a level 8 programmer for less than $10 million / year is by definition a level 8 programmer himself, even if he can't program at all.
Re:Why Software Outsourcing Doesn't Work Anymore
by jbn on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:39PM
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> especially in France. What software worth mentioning have they ever built over there?
you can add CATIA CAD, that owns 70% of the airplane design market.