> You are the type of person I was hoping not to encounter!
Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News. I'm sure you can express your thoughts about programming languages without them.
I'm sure you can mind my own business for me, maybe I should even let you write my next comment?
Would you like to see my papers?
Let me try this again. There are rules here, and we ban accounts that break them. Please read them, and post civilly and substantively or not at all.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
To anticipate the objection, no, this hasn't a fig to do with political correctness. It's about trying to preserve HN as a place where people want to come for substantive discussion. I'm sure many of us agree with your views on Lisp; that doesn't mean you get to be an arsonist.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10432280 and marked it off-topic.
The kool-aid drinkers.
I don't like Clojure or ClojureScript. They are both awful by virtue of the platform they exist on. I would like very much if Clojure had a core lisp KLambda, because I could abstract Clojure onto a platform that wasn't terrible.
Rich is a guy who (whether consciously or otherwise) hated writing Java and decided that functional programming worked, and that Lisp did too. Clojure is a strange abomination from the points of view of those in the pure-functional family, and those from the paren-dimension, but I find that Clojure code reads easily, and comes off far more expressive than that of Python or Ruby or other so-called expressive languages.
When someone who uses the JVM tells me that something I know to be true is 'fundamentally flawed' I become fearful for myself, that I might drown in irony.