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Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by ChuckMcM on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @09:27PM (#10429931)
On a smaller scale there is Mono lake in California. Same cause, water diverted for irrigation, lake dries up.
Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by cjensen on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @10:11PM (#10430032)
Mono Lake is smaller than it used to be, but it is growing slowly thanks to legal protections [1].

Owens Lake [2] to the south of Mono Lake is gone. It was larger than Mono Lake. Lake bed salts blown by the wind are pretty toxic, and Los Angeles was required to use some water to reduce dust.

The largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi used to be Tulare Lake [3] in central California. It's gone and the southern San Joaquin Valley no longer drains to the ocean. Salts and other junk is slowly building up.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Audubon_Society_v._Su...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owens_Lake

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulare_Lake

Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by mc32 on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @10:18PM (#10430057)
On the other hand, the Salton Sea didn't exist before the engineering accident which created it.
Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by greglindahl on Thursday October 22, 2015 @02:37AM (#10430727)
The most recent incarnation was created by an accident, sure. The lake has existed many times in the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea#History
Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by mc32 on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @10:20PM (#10430064)
I think there is a difference in the Aral Sea and Mono Lake. The Aral Sea was economically vital to its many communities in addition to providing natural habitats. Now the region is plagued by the effects (health, crops, fisheries) of toxic dust from the exposed seabed. Mono Lake is beautiful and provides habitat for some birds, but was never economically vital for a vast region.
Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by WildUtah on Thursday October 22, 2015 @12:46AM (#10430444)
Owens Valley was a prosperous farming community before LA diverted all the water and dried up the lake. Now Owens Valley has been abandoned for about a century.
Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by mc32 on Thursday October 22, 2015 @01:42AM (#10430572)
The farmers were compensated, as I understand it. The Aral sea area was very productive and supported tens of thousands of fishers and nearly a million people lived within the general catchment area, Inyo county has, what, twenty thousand people. The Aral sea is an area of near total devastation today and the people who remain suffer quite a lot economically and health-wise as a consequence.

Let's put this in perspective, the Aral sea was larger than lake Michigan, now it's one tenth its original size and three times as salty as seawater.

Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by dalke on Thursday October 22, 2015 @11:05AM (#10432629)
"The farmers were compensated, as I understand it."

Here's a relevant line from the Jethro Tull song, "Farm On The Freeway"

    They forgot they told us what this old land was for.
    Grow two tons the acre, boy, between the stones.
    This was no Southfork, it was no Ponderosa.
    But it was the place that I called home.

    They say they gave me compensation...
    That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
    And what do I want with a million dollars and a pickup truck?
Remember too that was we pay compensation for the lives we kill in the Middle East. Eg, http://www.thenation.com/article/blood-money-afghanistans-re... .

So "compensation" isn't really that humane of a word.

Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by mc32 on Thursday October 22, 2015 @11:29AM (#10432776)
Well, compare it to the not compensation people living in the Aral sea got,and I think we can decide what might be the alternative we choose.

With growing human populations we know we have to relocate resources, but we must make them as responsibly as we can, with as limited negative impact as we can afford.

Owens was begun in the '20s? Aral sea engineering in the 60s? That's 40 years of better understanding of the repercussions of badly planned engineering projects, yet it was pushed thru regardless.

Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by dalke on Thursday October 22, 2015 @02:38PM (#10434035)
I do not mean to diminish what has happened around the Aral Sea.

What I mean by that is, don't diminish or dismiss what happened in Owens by saying that the people involved "were compensated".

FWIW, I would have preferred the phrase "The farmers received some compensation, as I understand it."

Re:Shrinking Aral Sea by pstuart on Thursday October 22, 2015 @01:24AM (#10430534)
Somebody should make a movie about that /s