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Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by toomuchtodo on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @06:01PM (#10429059)
Unless you've won the economic lottery or lucked out, its going to be very difficult to climb the housing ladder (starter home->family home->empty nest home) for Millennials.

People don't want to subsidize first time homebuyers, but they have no problem with the government subsidizing landlords (depreciation allowances, tax deductible mortgage interest). After so much distressed property ended up on the market after the housing collapse, private equity money swooped in to suck all the property up and charge "market" rent.

Millennials either need to adjust their expectations (get remote jobs, not be tied to areas with high cost of living that are going to extract a large part of their income from them) or fall into enough money to not only buy a property, but to weather any financial disasters they have so as to not lose their equity by losing their home. Hustling hard for years on end while being frugal is another option, but it is no guarantee of success.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by irishcoffee on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @06:40PM (#10429313)
> Hustling hard for years on end while being frugal is another option, but it is no guarantee of success.

I know more than a handful of people who have done this successfully, so I respectfully disagree.

I agree with the rest of your comment, just not the discounting hard work and being frugal part.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by toomuchtodo on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @06:42PM (#10429330)
Forgive me, but your few anecdotes don't replace entire datasets showing how badly off Millennials are economically.

It's not a matter of working hard; sometimes there just aren't enough jobs to go around, or existing demand for someone to start a business to satisfy that demand.

I've known people who have saved for years, put down payments down, and then lost it all when their builder went bankrupt (and they had no recourse). Welcome back to square one.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by snowwrestler on Thursday October 22, 2015 @01:30AM (#10430543)
5 years after my dad (a Boomer) finished college, he faced unemployment and mortgage rates over 8%.

5 years after I (a Gen Xer) finished college, I faced unemployment and mortgage rates just under 6%.

Today the unemployment rate is 5.5% and the mortgage interest rate is under 4%.

While buying a first house is never an easy thing to do, there are plenty of indicators that it's not harder today than it was in the past.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by irishcoffee on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @10:10PM (#10430030)
Forgive me, but entitlement is a fun idea, not reality.

People wanting to start a business that isn't viable, bummer. Not enough jobs: I delivered papers, barbacked, worked a day job, figured it out. If they picked a bad builder, that sucks. Find your recourse. Be smart, be mature, figure it out.

Entitlement is a problem, working hard is not.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by toomuchtodo on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @10:16PM (#10430049)
I'm sorry your opinion and reality are incompatible.
Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by ak217 on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @06:15PM (#10429162)
That all makes perfect sense. For a moment I thought you were referring more to the NAR (market) than the tax regime/REIT side of things.

As a millenial with hope of some sort of real estate in my future, I've been thinking of buying an empty/distressed lot and rebuilding it, but I don't know how realistic that is.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by toomuchtodo on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @06:16PM (#10429169)
> As a millenial with hope of some sort of real estate in my future, I've been thinking of buying an empty/distressed lot and rebuilding it, but I don't know how realistic that is.

Very reasonable. I've done this before. Let me know if you'd like to chat over email, and I'll get you my contact info.

Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by brerlapn on Thursday October 22, 2015 @12:14PM (#10433039)
I've been thinking about this, as well, and would be interested to see your thoughts on it, even if just a cut and paste of your advice to ak217. My email is brerlapn at fastmail.fm. Much appreciated...
Re:Prices for starter homes are crowding out millennials by ak217 on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @06:25PM (#10429216)
I would certainly welcome any guidance. Email in my profile. Thanks!