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Re:Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Fre... by brazzledazzle on Saturday October 17, 2015 @12:21PM (#10404891)
I don't even bother upgrading Windows on laptops. It's better to wait until all of the drivers are fully supported by the manufacturer then do a clean install. I don't know what Microsoft is thinking. Laptops are incredibly fragile from a driver perspective because of all the non-standard and model specific things they do.
Re:Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Fre... by currysausage on Saturday October 17, 2015 @12:58PM (#10405066)
Actually, most things laptops do are pretty generic, but manufacturers seem obsessed about owning the "experience" of doing the most basic things.

My ThinkPad T430 runs Windows 10 without any Lenovo crapware, and it's such a smooth experience. No more invisible windows randomly popping up in the taskbar, stealing my keyboard focus, no more dozens of TPCRAP.EXE in my autostart.

Re:Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Fre... by smilekzs on Saturday October 17, 2015 @01:05PM (#10405097)
Do you use TrackPoint? If you do, these drivers are inevitable. Considering how fragile and inconsistent across models and versions they are I'd say good luck.

Nice coinage: "TPCRAP.EXE"

Re:Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Fre... by currysausage on Saturday October 17, 2015 @01:20PM (#10405179)
I did install device software that came via Windows Update (mostly unobtrusive stuff), and you're right, I did install the "UltraNav"-branded Synaptics drivers manually from lenovo.com. They are abysmal [1], but still less so than the Synaptics driver that came via WU.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10303162

Re:Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Fre... by DanBC on Saturday October 17, 2015 @01:30PM (#10405233)
But are they actually doing non-standard stuff?

On a new ASUS X205ta ("Windows 8.1 with Bing") the audio drivers are broken, and which don't have Linux drivers yet. (at least, the websites I read from July suggest that.)