How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by Shivetya on Thursday October 15, 2015 @08:07AM (#10392619)

So besides "chicken shops" which must be a regional indicator for poor or undesirable what other establishments are also present? There should be an obvious transition type of business that precedes the coffee shop. Combined with chicken shops perhaps the availability of different businesses could give entrepreneurs an indicator where to set up similar or buy up space?

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by elcct on Thursday October 15, 2015 @08:26AM (#10392684)

Pawnshops, payday loan services, barber shops... And pubs closed down, because it is too dangerous for them to operate. Also signs on restaurants "Customer only toilets"

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by branchless on Thursday October 15, 2015 @09:35AM (#10393004)

Charity shops. Often when an area starts to fail as a shopping hub and retailers close when landlords can't get a new business in and have a void they still have to pay business rates. The way to avoid this is to charge rent to a charity shop which doesn't have to pay business rates, so they win even if the charity shop is paying lower rent than the business before.

For example Muswell Hill.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by norea-armozel on Thursday October 15, 2015 @09:18AM (#10392927)

Yeah I would say pawn shops and payday loan services are the biggest indicators of a neighborhood in decline. They seem like the two predatory businesses that show up just as a neighborhood is seeing people with any money leave.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by SpaghettiCat on Thursday October 15, 2015 @08:50AM (#10392796)

Why barber shops? Don't well-to-do people also go to the barber to get their hair cut?

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by alphydan on Thursday October 15, 2015 @09:14AM (#10392896)

Of course not. They go to their stylist!

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by somedudethere on Thursday October 15, 2015 @12:06PM (#10393936)

Most have the barber come to them or have a private barber in the building. My office has a separate room and a barber comes in every other week to cut hair.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by ghaff on Thursday October 15, 2015 @12:47PM (#10394229)

Seriously? That is certainly not anything approaching the norm in the US.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by pionar on Thursday October 15, 2015 @09:13AM (#10392894)

They go to salons :).

(Joking.)

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by Turing_Machine on Thursday October 15, 2015 @04:34PM (#10395809)

Tattoo parlors. Strip clubs. Hole-in-the-wall liquor stores. Pull-tab joints. Attended laundromats (people who live in bad neighborhoods don't have their own washers and dryers, and ones that are inside apartment buildings tend to get vandalized/broken into).

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by twic on Thursday October 15, 2015 @07:24PM (#10396606)

What's a pull-tab joint?

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by Nadya on Thursday October 15, 2015 @07:29PM (#10396635)

I imagine liquor stores that sell pull-tabs. I'm unaware of stores dedicated to selling pull-tabs but there are a lot of corner liquor stores that are more or less frequented by people purchasing pull-tabs and cigarettes more than anything else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-tab

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by twic on Saturday October 17, 2015 @07:15AM (#10404059)

Ah, thanks. FWIW, the UK equivalent is the scratchcard:

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/games/gamestore/scratchca...

You can buy these in most newsagents, and as far as i know there aren't dedicated shops for them.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by Turing_Machine on Thursday October 15, 2015 @10:23PM (#10397140)

There are indeed dedicated stores for selling them in some areas. It probably varies by state.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by Nadya on Friday October 16, 2015 @12:01PM (#10400177)

The More You Know

I've never seen any in California, but the gist holds true. It's a good indicator that it is a poor part of town.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by hueving on Thursday October 15, 2015 @08:39AM (#10392736)

Bars on the windows and doors.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by Turing_Machine on Thursday October 15, 2015 @04:31PM (#10395795)

Or windows that have been completely bricked up.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by arethuza on Thursday October 15, 2015 @08:24AM (#10392678)

I'd look at what type of cars are parked in the street at night.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by czbond on Thursday October 15, 2015 @09:22AM (#10392944)

Now that's an interesting indicator - many of these are variations of the same theme and lagging indicators. Yours is (except for areas in immediate transitions) a real time indicator idea. At least in the US.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by arethuza on Thursday October 15, 2015 @09:31AM (#10392985)

It would definitely work in the UK as well - especially as you can tell the age of a car from the number-plate. Find a run down area and track the number of newer family cars or BMWs/Audis.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by thedaemon on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:28AM (#10393711)

Will not work in the USA, poor black people buy new German luxury cars and live in dumps. I don't understand.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by arethuza on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:33AM (#10393734)

So look for Teslas?

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by ryandrake on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:48AM (#10393830)

...or the fact that there are cars parked on the street vs not.

I've lived in poor suburban neighborhoods and generally, the poorer the neighborhood, the more cars were parked on the street. I've lived in neighborhoods that looked like used car lots! Poorer neighborhoods tend to have more houses without garages. And in neighborhoods that have garages, the poorer families tend to use their garages as extra bedrooms, workshops, meth labs, basically anything BUT storing cars.

Note, this stereotype probably only works in the suburbs, because in urban areas, every potential parking spot is filled with a car by default.

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Re:How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried c... by djhworld on Thursday October 15, 2015 @08:15AM (#10392639)

Estate agents, particularly ones that specialise in rentals.

London has a horrendous housing problem at the moment.

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