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Re:What Really Keeps Women Out of Tech by bduerst on Sunday October 11, 2015 @11:18PM (#10372332)
>glaring injustices

Kind of a false dichotomy. The APA has found that men are more likely to become substance abusers, which is linked to homelessness and conviction rates.

Why not help both men and women? Why does one need to be first?

Re:What Really Keeps Women Out of Tech by pkinsky on Monday October 12, 2015 @12:01AM (#10372469)
> Why not help both men and women? Why does one need to be first?

I'm not arguing that we should or should not help some group. I just think that if every instance of disparate impact is assumed to be solely due to discrimination, then we also need to start treating homelessness and the prison-industrial complex as gendered issues disproportionately affecting men.

> The APA has found that men are more likely to become substance abusers, which is linked to homelessness and conviction rates.

One could (tongue firmly in cheek) argue that this is due to implicit anti-male biases in society.

Re:What Really Keeps Women Out of Tech by bduerst on Monday October 12, 2015 @11:36AM (#10375178)
It is - in fact, the preexisting ideas of masculinity is a bias that makes men feel that they don't need to seek help when they really need it [1], which can lead to self medication and substance abuse.

That was the point - that these gender biases exist for both sexes and need to be addressed at the same time (not one before the other).

[1] http://www.apa.org/monitor/jun05/helping.aspx

Re:What Really Keeps Women Out of Tech by Kalium on Monday October 12, 2015 @12:38AM (#10372595)
> Why not help both men and women? Why does one need to be first?

Because whenever there are limited resources available to help people, there's going to be a need-off to decide who takes priority.

A lot of politics flows from this. This is why you will often find lots of jockeying for position and heartstring-pulling from nonprofits and NGOs. If you don't do well enough in the need-off, you might not get any resources.