Re:Urban activists set out to sue San Francisco’s suburbs
by akgerber on Monday October 12, 2015 @12:04AM
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Beyond that, the state is who sends a sheriff to evict someone from a house when they don't pay rent to a landlord.
Re:Urban activists set out to sue San Francisco’s suburbs
by hugh4 on Sunday October 11, 2015 @06:38PM
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Sure, the state is what allows you to be alive at all, because without it you'd probably have been killed by or enslaved by roving Mad Max style marauders.
Therefore you owe your life to the State and they can demand anything at all from you and you shouldn't complain. Right?
Re:Urban activists set out to sue San Francisco’s suburbs
by Apocryphon on Sunday October 11, 2015 @06:58PM
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Welcome to the social contract
Re:Urban activists set out to sue San Francisco’s suburbs
by Turing_Machine on Sunday October 11, 2015 @10:29PM
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You (and others on this thread, on both sides) are pretending that there's no gradation between "roving bands of cannibal looters" (the "Mad Max" scenario) and "Tyrannical government controls every single aspect of your daily life" (the "1984" scenario), when in fact there is a very large amount of space between those two scenarios.
That is a fundamentally dishonest argument.
There are honest discussions of exactly where the boundaries on government power should lie, but this isn't one of them.
The state is what allows a landlord to be a landlord in the first place, by making a society stable enough that property ownership is a matter of laws and contracts as opposed to guns and groups with guns.