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Re:Did I Just Give My Permission? The Hashtag as Consent by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 11, 2015 @02:29AM (#10368304)
What's wrong with embedding per se? We should be preventing companies from monetizing other people's works without permission and knowledge, but disabling embedding - especially with all the cruft that usually comes with it, that points towards the source - is going too far. It's trying to protect user rights so much that it overflows the counter and wraps back around to damaging them.

As a user I want the right to embed any publicly available work for purpose of commentary, as long as I'm doing it non-profit. Yes, if someone posts a public photo of their kid, I want to be able to embed it on my non-profit website (if I run ads, go ahead and sue me) to comment about that absolutely awesome/awful photo I've just found. Disabling embedding wholesale is throwing baby out with bathwater - it's hurting cultural development.

Re:Did I Just Give My Permission? The Hashtag as Consent by digisth on Sunday October 11, 2015 @02:58AM (#10368356)
There's nothing wrong with it, but having the ability for people to opt-out (some professional photographers, for example, don't want any kind of usage that isn't pre-approved, even if editorial) would be a way to make it crystal clear whether that user is OK with it or not. What we have right now leaves everyone in a murky area legally, and adds friction and annoyance. "Embed controls" would remove any questions about it, which would give users a say in how their content is used without having to give permission for each usage request, and would protect the people that want to use the posts without having to make a request for each one. Everyone would be covered.

Also, there are many different kinds of uses, some commercial-y. Here are a few:

- Display on Twitter itself (retweet)

- Use in a news story, near an ad

- Display in a Twitter widget on a web site

- Embedded Instagram photos on a company gallery page

- Use in an email ad campaign

- Use on a billboard

The list of things above exist on spectrum of "commercial-ness", and reasonable people can disagree on which they think are OK and which aren't as far as obtaining advanced permission. What many would like to see are much more explicit rules or technical controls so that the ambiguities are removed.

Embed controls might not be ideal from a fair use perspective, but it's a lot better than the "let the courts figure out" situation we have now.

Re:Did I Just Give My Permission? The Hashtag as Consent by Dylan16807 on Sunday October 11, 2015 @02:51AM (#10368347)
If you're doing a fair use, make your own copy, especially to keep it safe from sudden deletion.

If you're not doing a fair use, then maybe you shouldn't have the right to embed so freely.

I don't see how a no-embed policy hurts anything.