Re:Dear Volkswagen: you are probably doomed (but not because...
by Havoc on Sunday September 27, 2015 @12:17PM
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>That was not willful deception
No? They realised a fault in their cars were actively killing people and opted to not do anything about it. Thats closer to murder than wilful deception really. As for the deception part - they silently redesigned the part but kept the old part number so that it would fly under the radar.
Neither VW nor GM's behaviour is acceptable. Just pointing out that various car manufacturers have a history of sketchy behaviour & I'd expect the fine for this instance to be broadly in line with previous examples.
>cancer due to the carcinogens released by a 40x increase in pollution
I don't think N2O is significantly carcinogenic. The primary risk is greenhouse effect risk as far as I understand. As I understand it the other pollutants all made it below the thresholds without software sorcery, though frankly who knows at this stage.
No? They realised a fault in their cars were actively killing people and opted to not do anything about it. Thats closer to murder than wilful deception really. As for the deception part - they silently redesigned the part but kept the old part number so that it would fly under the radar.
Neither VW nor GM's behaviour is acceptable. Just pointing out that various car manufacturers have a history of sketchy behaviour & I'd expect the fine for this instance to be broadly in line with previous examples.
>cancer due to the carcinogens released by a 40x increase in pollution
I don't think N2O is significantly carcinogenic. The primary risk is greenhouse effect risk as far as I understand. As I understand it the other pollutants all made it below the thresholds without software sorcery, though frankly who knows at this stage.