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Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by dsjoerg on Friday September 18, 2015 @01:22PM (#10240536)
"no longer strictly within the bounds of the rules of the game" I take exception to _strictly_... it's just flat out illegal now, no "strictly" about it. I would have been less ticked off if the article had simply written "no longer within the bounds of the rules of the game."

It is fascinating that the move was formerly legal though.

Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by fizixer on Friday September 18, 2015 @03:06PM (#10241376)
I guess the word might've been used in a facetious way, so to speak, the way Mr. Cobb in Inception tells Ariadne (can also be seen in the trailer), "Well, it's not strictly speaking legal" when it's clearly illegal.

But I agree, the word is very misleading in the article's context.

Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by reviseddamage on Friday September 18, 2015 @08:56PM (#10242878)
the amount of times i get called bullshit for doing an en passant or uttering the word zugzwang...
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by rtpg on Friday September 18, 2015 @09:16PM (#10242919)
Serious question: Does en passant happen often? I've never seen it happen in the wild (i.e. in games I play), but I just play casually with people.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by dasil003 on Friday September 18, 2015 @11:24PM (#10243172)
It happens a lot more to people who don't know the rule.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by dllthomas on Friday September 18, 2015 @10:39PM (#10243084)
I've definitely seen it, and I have never played a ton of chess.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by icelancer on Friday September 18, 2015 @11:45PM (#10243207)
More common in blitz. Carlsen executes it in the 2013 world blitz championships I believe, and I've had it done to me and I've done it as well in 1m/2s games.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by elangelcentral on Saturday September 19, 2015 @03:01AM (#10243555)
Even if it doesn't actually happen, it often impacts play, especially in the end game.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by Scarblac on Saturday September 19, 2015 @07:19AM (#10243965)
It's relevant in almost every game, if you include variations that you have to consider when deciding your move.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by javert on Friday September 18, 2015 @01:40PM (#10240710)
Yeah, but putting "strictly" there does not change the meaning of the sentence, it's just a superfluous word.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by dsjoerg on Friday September 18, 2015 @04:56PM (#10242010)
"strictly" changes the meaning of the sentence. it suggests that there are "strict" and "not so strict" interpretations of the chess rules, and that if you're not so strict, the move is OK.

but promoting to the other color is not allowed, even under "not so strict" interpretations of the rules of chess.

an example of things that may be permitted in "not so strict" chess: taking back your move, not moving a piece even though you touched it, talking to the other player, agreeing to play on even though you've had a threefold repetition.

Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by Dylan16807 on Friday September 18, 2015 @11:05PM (#10243137)
Allowing promotion to any piece sounds perfectly in line with "not so strict" chess rules to me.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by yk on Friday September 18, 2015 @09:28PM (#10242943)
If my opponent would use that move, I would probably consider it as a severe case of rule of cool. ( But this may be the reason, that I prefer RPGs to chess. )
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by javert on Friday September 18, 2015 @06:42PM (#10242453)
I mean really, the rules are the rules, and there is no ambiguity. So a "strict reading of the rules" is the same thing as a "reading of the rules." Because, as you say, there is no such thing as a reading of the rules that violates the rules and is thus merely "less strict."

For example, under the rules, not moving a piece you touched and promoting to the other color are the same: illegal.

The examples you are giving are simply cases where the other player is likely to let you break the rules if it's a very casual game.

So again, having "strictly" in the sentence is, technically, purely redundant.

It's a dumb thing to say, but then again, it probably made the piece more suspenseful and thus more fun to read.

Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by v0x on Friday September 18, 2015 @08:42PM (#10242847)
You seem to imply that all rules are equally as important as one another, while I would say they are not. For example, in a casual game of chess, most would be okay with some of the aforementioned deviations, like taking back a move. I do not think most would accept it if you started moving your pawns around like queens.
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by barrkel on Saturday September 19, 2015 @09:17PM (#10246188)
Either English is not your first language, or you have never played a game with a child!
Re:The Hardest chess problem in the world? by jMyles on Friday September 18, 2015 @02:22PM (#10241073)
It gives the sentence a nuance that suggests ambiguity, as if prohibition of this move requires some particularly "strict" reading of the rules. I agree that makes the sentence weaker, and given the gravity of the sentence, makes the article seem somewhat amateur.