Re:Our Team Won Startup Weekend and All We Got Was a Shitty ...
by IkmoIkmo on Friday September 18, 2015 @08:55AM
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The 0.4% deal applies to Billy, as well. As I understand it, everyone is entitled to 0.4% of whatever venture follows from the work they'd collectively do over that weekend. It wasn't Billy who offered it, it was a friend of OP, one of the devs. Any of the devs could start a company as well and all of the other team members including Billy would have a 0.4% share in that, too. In fact the most sensible thing to do is for the 4 members to say 'let's start this thing up, take nearly 25% each, give Billy 0.4% and do our best'. They'd likely beat Billy in competition as they can iterate on the codebase, Billy can not without hiring a new team. If the devs aren't interested in running that startup then they'd still be entitled to 0.4% of what Billy is going to run.
(edit ignore the exact percentages, they ended up with a team of 8 devs than 4)
Re:Our Team Won Startup Weekend and All We Got Was a Shitty ...
by dalke on Friday September 18, 2015 @02:20PM
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No, the relevant copyright law does not accept a 'handshake deal' to transfer copyright ownership as work for hire. Quoting from http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ09.pdf :
> A work created by an independent contractor can be a work made for hire only if (a) it falls within one of the nine categories of works listed in part 2 above and (b) there is a written agreement between parties specifying that the work is a work made for hire.
Re:Our Team Won Startup Weekend and All We Got Was a Shitty ...
by nmrm2 on Friday September 18, 2015 @05:23PM
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Is access to the biz dev IP probably included by a handshake deal?
Re:Our Team Won Startup Weekend and All We Got Was a Shitty ...
by dalke on Friday September 18, 2015 @06:16PM
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What sort of IP are you talking about? There's no trademark infringement, there's no patent. I didn't see mention of any trade secret, or anything that sounds like a trade secret (eg, "information which is difficult for others to properly acquire or independently duplicate").
If there's no law covering it, there's no IP.
Re:Our Team Won Startup Weekend and All We Got Was a Shitty ...
by carrja99 on Friday September 18, 2015 @08:53AM
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From what I read Billy didn't make the arrangement, one of the developers did. The idea was that if the entire team of 9 didn't stick around to when the startup becomes successful then they at least get 0.4% equity for participating at startup weekend.
If I was being uncharitable, I could say that the reason the 0.4% offer came up in the first place was specifically to deal with this problem - by offering a trivial amount of equity, Billy has an argument that the other programmers were compensated for their time in a form that they mutually agreed to. Why else would Billy bother making this arrangement?