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Re:Why Do We Admire Mobsters? by Apocryphon on Thursday September 17, 2015 @12:49PM (#10234501)
You're comparing different types of social groups to religion, but I think the answer is more mundane than that. Religion is a social group just any of those, it just happens to seem more archaic in the modern day. But those other social groups are just as easily influenced by irrationality, strongman dominance, infighting, and dynamics as religion. Getting rid of religion doesn't get rid of human nature.
Re:Why Do We Admire Mobsters? by humanrebar on Thursday September 17, 2015 @01:20PM (#10234732)
> ...it just happens to seem more archaic in the modern day...

To you, perhaps. It's pretty patronizing and narrow-minded to write off the views of billions of people as "archaic". In fact, theism is so common that you'd have to be in some kind of bubble to not have any friends, colleagues, or acquaintances that are theists. I'm sure they'd be disappointed (if not offended) to hear you refer to their beliefs like that.

If you want people to keep their religion to themselves, you should really treat their beliefs with a modicum of respect. Otherwise, you're just being abusive.

But your main point is well taken; infighting, irrationality, hypocrisy, and other bad behavior are certainly not unique to religious groups. Humanity is a much more common factor than theism.

Re:Why Do We Admire Mobsters? by Apocryphon on Thursday September 17, 2015 @04:20PM (#10235808)
Actually, I agree. I hold religion in esteem, and I believe it's an institution and central part of culture that should remain part of the human experience. (And it will, anyway, even if we end up worshipping a 'religion' of the Word of pg, or a cult of the imminent eschaton of the Singularity.) I just mean "archaic" because a lot of people here on HN, including the comment I was responding to, probably view it as such, and to some degree 'traditional religion' is becoming archaic in many parts of the world. But does not mean there will not be new ones.

As well all know, deprecated does not necessarily mean obsoleted. That is deprecated can eternal lie, and with odd futures even faith may fly.