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Re:Examining the Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration by anigbrowl on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @06:10PM (#10223476)
The fallacy in your comment is that you assume the degraded state to be inherent. I'm Irish myself and while Ireland became independent of its colonial oppressor and is a fairly prosperous nation today, people used to make the same assumptions about racial degradation and so on that you do about black people.

Your argument proceeds like this: Group X is badly off, because group X is inferior, therefore it's group X's own fault. Well, if you knew a group was at an enormous starting disadvantage in an iterated economic competition, naturally you would expect its position to decline over time. But if you were to provide group X with resources to mitigate its disadvantage, why would you not expect it to revert to the mean? On the other hand, give me a license to systematically oppress any group - people in your family tree, for example - and after a few decades I'll be able to make them underperform significantly, especially if operating the machinery of oppression allows me to collect economic rents.

Re:Examining the Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration by hnpc123 on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @06:32PM (#10223570)
This would be another explanation for why African Americans (and Africans) are doing so poorly.

It's a good argument and so it weakens the likelihood of my argument but it doesn't actually refute or argue directly against my points.

Re:Examining the Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration by orf on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @06:27PM (#10223547)
Well said, I don't think logic is parents strong point though.